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#1 January 11 2017

jad594
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Graphic Card Equivalence

Dear Geeks,

Was just wondering if someone can assist me with this GPU comparison of a 940MX 4GB and GDDR5 and a GTX 560. H1Z1's King of the Kill's *recommended specs* the 560, so I went on to do some research and I found the following:

On GpuBoss's website, the comparison gave GTX 560 a 7.0 and the 940MX a 6.6
On Game-debate website, the comparison gave the 940MX a rating of 5 and the 560 a rating of 4

So I was wondering if I should buy the game or not? My other specs are i7-7500U with 2.7Ghz up to 3.5Ghz and 8GB ram.

Thanks.

Note: I get around 150fps on CS GO with high settings
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Dear Geeks,

Was just wondering what you think is best to set the PhysX setting on NVIDIA to: GPU or CPU or Auto if you want the best gaming experience?

Thank you.

Edit: I am using a basic 940mx 4GB dedicated

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#2 January 11 2017

Satfoun
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Re: Graphic Card Equivalence

Depends what is your graphics card and CPU, but we usually use GPU if it is some high end NVIDIA card, leave it auto perhaps?! O.o

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#3 January 11 2017

jad594
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Re: Graphic Card Equivalence

Thank you for the reply Satfoun! I'm using a basic 940MX on a laptop but I read online that if you set the global choice as 940MX for graphics and you set Physx as 940MX, it will over-heart and reduce performance. Not sure if that is true though.

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#4 January 11 2017

Satfoun
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Re: Graphic Card Equivalence

i thought you got the 960M o.o
Anyway the games you are going to play dont have the PhysX feature, only witcher 3 with that Hairworks , even my 980 could not handle it max haha so i turned it off :|
anyway leave it auto , because if i remember well , your CPU is not any better than your graphics card

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#5 January 16 2017

anayman_k7
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Re: Graphic Card Equivalence

Hello, the 940MX is a boosted 940M, check this link for details
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeF … 033.0.html

As for the comparison with a GTX560 I used to a simple website to compare GPUs, sadly I did not find the 940MX but I found the 940M so here is how it compares with the 560
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nv … 8796vs3155

So the GTX 560 is 140% better than the 940M, best case scenario 135% compared  to the GTX 560, but does that mean it is able to run H1Z1 and on which resolution (taking into consideration the i7 7500U CPU)? Lets find out

i5 with 940MX case, he did not specify the resolution but ill take a wild guess based on specs that it is 720p (same as your laptop), he is getting around 50fps but when the game face issues in cities it will drop to the 30 range.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/295110/d … 666525329/

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#6 January 16 2017

jad594
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Re: Graphic Card Equivalence

anayman_k7 wrote:

Hello, the 940MX is a boosted 940M, check this link for details
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeF … 033.0.html

As for the comparison with a GTX560 I used to a simple website to compare GPUs, sadly I did not find the 940MX but I found the 940M so here is how it compares with the 560
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nv … 8796vs3155

So the GTX 560 is 140% better than the 940M, best case scenario 135% compared  to the GTX 560, but does that mean it is able to run H1Z1 and on which resolution (taking into consideration the i7 7500U CPU)? Lets find out

i5 with 940MX case, he did not specify the resolution but ill take a wild guess based on specs that it is 720p (same as your laptop), he is getting around 50fps but when the game face issues in cities it will drop to the 30 range.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/295110/d … 666525329/

Thank you for the detailed reply - I would like to take this as a chance to ask a further question. I currently have the i7-7500U 2.7Ghz - 3.5Ghz processor. I am very aware it is a dual core, but just for simple comparison, a minimum requirement of H1Z1 is a quad core i5-2300 processor which is currently priced at $187 (http://ark.intel.com/products/52206/Int … o-3_10-GHz); but my processor hits $393 even though it is a dual core (https://ark.intel.com/products/95451/Intel-Core-i7-7500U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz-). In simplistic terms, can you explain why I have the more expensive processor but I am at a disadvantage with respect to this game (it is just because I have i7)?

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#7 January 16 2017

anayman_k7
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Re: Graphic Card Equivalence

First lets talk specs,
i7-7500U has 2 cores with hyper-threading, 2.7Ghz boost to 3.5Ghz  with 4MB cache (arch:14nm, date: Q3'16)
i5-2300 has 4 cores with no hyper-threading, 2.8Ghz boost to 3.1Ghz with 6MB cache (arch: 32nm, date: Q1'11)

Performance:
Even that the old i5 has 4 physical cores its old architecture could make it lack behind a logical 4 cores (2 cores with HT)
Checking the single core performance, the i7 gets 1,957 points and i5 gets 1,571 points

As for the all cores performance the i7 gets 5257 points where the i5 gets 5280, almost the same!
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/CPU_mega_page.html

Pricing:
the price listed at Intel site for the i7 is the suggested price of the CPU when they sell it to Notebook manufacturers, it is expensive yeah because its a 15Watt high end CPU and as you can see it managed to match a full 4 physical cores of the i5-2300 which has a 95Watt TDP!

Conclusion: I think it will perform on par of the i5-2300 in games, considering it is the minimum required CPU to play the game it means it will - combined with the 940MX - give you 50fps average in H1Z1 720p low

Check this video, he is using i5-6200U, so with your i7 and the boosted 940MX you should have better performance
https://youtu.be//8vz4mg6-Mms

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#8 January 16 2017

jad594
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Re: Graphic Card Equivalence

anayman_k7 wrote:

First lets talk specs,
i7-7500U has 2 cores with hyper-threading, 2.7Ghz boost to 3.5Ghz  with 4MB cache (arch:14nm, date: Q3'16)
i5-2300 has 4 cores with no hyper-threading, 2.8Ghz boost to 3.1Ghz with 6MB cache (arch: 32nm, date: Q1'11)

Performance:
Even that the old i5 has 4 physical cores its old architecture could make it lack behind a logical 4 cores (2 cores with HT)
Checking the single core performance, the i7 gets 1,957 points and i5 gets 1,571 points

As for the all cores performance the i7 gets 5257 points where the i5 gets 5280, almost the same!
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/CPU_mega_page.html

Pricing:
the price listed at Intel site for the i7 is the suggested price of the CPU when they sell it to Notebook manufacturers, it is expensive yeah because its a 15Watt high end CPU and as you can see it managed to match a full 4 physical cores of the i5-2300 which has a 95Watt TDP!

Conclusion: I think it will perform on par of the i5-2300 in games, considering it is the minimum required CPU to play the game it means it will - combined with the 940MX - give you 50fps average in H1Z1 720p low

Check this video, he is using i5-6200U, so with your i7 and the boosted 940MX you should have better performance
https://youtu.be//8vz4mg6-Mms

Thank you very very much! This was very helpful, I am confident with the distinction now. I watched the video and if this person is averaging 50FPS with those specs, I should have a minimum of 60FPS!

Last edited by jad594 (January 16 2017)

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