Truth

  • Jun 7, 2010
  • Joined Jun 2, 2010
  • In GMI (Goldmine Int) is it a Scam?
    @kareem_nasser: Did you know, among the first thing they teach you when u enter their Cabal is that good news go down, bad news go up.

    Simple right? but with a hierarchy shrouded in mystery, you can't but think if all these good news going down are real.
    Transparency is one of the key-success-factor in an enterprise, it helps employees gain trust in their companies.

    I understand that your friend or whoever he is, is telling you that all is well. They are programmed like that. Don't blame him. Try to stay in good terms with him, it's really not worth it.

    And profit, let's talk a sec about this one, if i buy an apple for 1$ :P and sell it for 1.01$ yeah i will be making profit.

    The thing is here that the ratio of (Profit / Time / Effort) is so low that it isn't even worth it anymore.

    Then they will throw the exponential factor at you, in time your tree will grow beyond measure, under a perfect world yes, in the real world i doubt it.

    Ask for proofs: Annual reports, audit, statistics. etc

    In the end, why am i saying all that? i'm just trying to share an experience, now for just 60$ or whatever, it isn't that terrible anymore, but it's like the 10$ documents fees we had to pay for, to my knowledge, if you are taking a formation, it's at the enterprise's expenses, not yours, just saying, it's a sign of struggle.

    PS: I remembered something, one time i told one of the big uplines that a (my best)friend of mine told me not to go into GMI cause it's fishy, he answered: well it seems that he is not a real friend...
  • In GMI (Goldmine Int) is it a Scam?
    Hello lebgeeks community, this is my gift to you all as a new member.

    Allow me to give you my side of the story and facts regarding GMI. Sorry for the HUGE wall of text, but please read it, it will help you.

    Unlike those mindless zombies that see in GMI a sign from God, i will tell you exactly what you want to know.

    First of all, GMI is seen as a scam by some, and a blessing by some others, in fact it is both. Of all the easy ways of making money this is the most despicable one.

    Yes there are some people making money out of it, only the ones at the top though, this is not a secret. the one telling you that people below him are making more money is a liar, screenshot or it didn't happen, you won't get any tangible proof.

    Do not believe all the gibberish of verisign or the registration at the Norway commerce chamber, i can go and register anything if i wanted. AND the Norway embassy said they had no relations with them, in addition i asked some friends from Norway to go and check this out for me, it turned out to be a cover of some sort, so beware, i will not waste your time by telling you all the technical details, but google it and you will find what you need.

    Let me tell you what happened to me:
    You will realise while reading an obvious pattern

    One day my not so very good friend called me, he was vociferating something about a lifetime opportunity, a way to earn "good" money and enjoy life.

    - O'rly i said? let's take a look, tell me about it...
    - No no bud i cant tell you im not qualified enough, there is this one guy though, he will tell you all you want to "hear".
    - No thank you, im fine the way i am.
    - Come on man, you gotta see it, we'll just have a chat, drink coffee with this guy and if you don't like it, you can leave, no one is forcing you. (can you see the pattern forming fellows?)
    - First of all i dont like coffee, second he better not try to force me to buy anything, but what the hell.

    So we met this one guy, the all knowing venerable guy, a very normal looking guy i may add, with another 3 regular looking peeps, only thing is that i could've sworn these guys were doing their best to kiss his ass and boots.
    Alrighty i thought, let's get this over with.
    After 20 mins listening to him, my cell phone rang. just for the record it was university calling, i apologized and answered.
    Obviously the guy there was not happy at all...
    - Am i boring you sir? he asked, was the call so important
    - Now that you are mentionning it, yes you are boring me, im out.
    - This is an oportunity of a life time, if you don't want it, 10 others will.
    One of the other guys told me. (Yes they hunt in packs sometimes)
    - You know he isnt even supposed to be talking to you, he is doing us a favor by talking to us, he already has his branches full.
    - Once again you are boring me.

    And i left.

    Notice the pattern here ? Great job opportunity - Coffee Shop - Great Guy's Wisdom - Terbi7 Jmilé...
    THEY BLOODY DO IT ALL THE TIME TO EVERYONE, same lines, same places, same scenario.

    Let's carry on shall we? 2 weeks later my buddy calls me.

    - Man im innit and it's awesome, i already met 7 people who wanna join, come on man, im keeping one spot for you near my name on the branch, i know you will be successful at it.
    - You realise you're being an imbecile now?
    - Come on man (didnt even react to my insult) it's just 660$ !(i will come back to this point later)
    - Only 660$ ??? you realise a familly has to work a month to get paid like this ?

    After much struggle I finally accepted to try the goddamn thing after reading that there is a refund policy for inactive accounts.

    And so, i bought 10 accounts of GMI 60$ +6$ fees = 660$
    Why can't i buy just one account? because that's what all knowing guy ordered.
    I had to follow an intensive training by my upline friend, the usual brainwashing technique, i swear to God this is worse than our politicians.

    After 5 hours of mind numbing poisonous texts and videos i was finally ready to go out there, play with people's dreams and make them join. After 21 successful rejects and 6 wasted presentations, i decided to use my time for something more rewarding, like watching the paint dry or the grass grow.

    Meanwhile my friend who had not been successful in getting the 7 other not so idiot people to join GMI, came up with a conclusion:
    - Man we need more training, we are failing at this business because we are quitting (pop! another pattern)
    - Yeah dude you're right, imma gonna go beat up somebody and force him to join, that will work, we'll be the GMI banditos! Join us or throw rotten vegetables at us cause you're smarter than us.
    - Haha very funny, that is just what we need, sarcasm, you know what you are? you are a dreamstealer! it's because people like you that we are failing (ding! another pattern)
    - Well it's not my fault if people aren't idiots.
    - They are afraid of change it's not their fault it's ours we have to be more persistent (did i mention? poof! another pattern)
    - Stop throwing this retarded policy at me, change? Banging your head on an electrified spiked brick wall aint gonna change the fact you're gonna die in awful pain from all the banging and it certainly ain't gonna change the fact that we got swindeled, let it be a lesson to us.
    - You just dont understand, i'll show you
    - And i'll show you the door
    - So this is how it's gonna be
    - Dude 660f*****g$ thrown away, yeah that's the way it's gonna be.
    - I'll give it back to you, and you will be sorry you didnt work more with GMI.
    - Because of you "dear" friend you made me lose 660$, because of you i wasted my time, you'll be lucky i dont ask interests from you.

    1 year passed. I did not get my money back, nor were we able to drag other people into this.
    I get a call.

    - Hey! This one guy is inviting us to his home along some other fellows to meet that shiny man who got so successful in GMI.
    - Sure why not, yet another occasion to prove to you we got scammed.

    So we went to this guy's place, not gonna say where, but looking at his place, i couldnt stop laughing, the place was a dump, we sat in a room on some prehistoric furniture, with other people, we were all looking at the huge plasma tv and the gaming console.
    - Did you see that? he is rich!
    - Oh yeah im sure...
    - How did he buy this stuff then?
    - Did you hear about credit? And paying approximately 1000$ isnt exactly being rich


    And then the doors opened ! I could hear angels in the background and he appeared, the one man that introduced GMI to our country.
    - Should i kiss his hand or foot? i asked my buddy
    - Silence he is gonna speak.
    - Oh let's not waste any word of wisdom!!!

    (The house is the house of the "one guy" that got bothered by my cellphone, do not mix him with the "shiny guy" he drives an infinity, that's what i meant with GMI is a blessing for some)

    And so he spoke... Boy was he eloquent and charismatic, he had a way with words that moved the masses, a real "Nigel West Dickens" if you ask me. He said that he was dissapointed that we did not get enough documents to help us work better and was gonna provide us with additionnal infos. Praise be the Lord... it would just cost us 10 bucks for the additionnal fees, woo man! somebody is getting desperate...

    I don't hate the guy, seriously i don't, i think he really believes in what he is doing, good for him and the rest. but i have been scammed of my money, and here comes the most important part.

    THEY decided to make it possible for us to register people with the 60$ account. (which was always possible on the site, but the uplines refused, greed i tell ya!) Super! I thought, now we are officially scammed with only 600$ +10$ but i didnt pay for the new documents cuz my old buddy decided to offer me the guides, well offer is not the real word,but nvm my pay pal.
    Maybe i might get two naives to register for 60$, and my conscience wont torture me too much, woop-de-dung, nope, even for 60$ people refused, damn was i stupid right?
    Time to take a closer look at the refund policy for inactive accounts.
    Surprise! surprise! i was not inactive, my buddy decided to put a total stranger below my left branch, to encourage me he said. ( i was owned anyway cause the real refund is a one week only timer upon registration or something like that, i don't really recall)
    - Oh ffs! Can't you do something right?
    - You should be grateful
    - No they should be grateful to you, now my account isn't frozen anymore!
    - If you wanna still quit there is the golden handshake!
    - Oh this... you know what this is do you?
    - Yeah you change your accounts into golden handshakes.
    - Charming and what does it do exactly?
    - You dont know? No wonder you're failing!
    - You retard i know what it is, do you?
    - Yes it will allow you to give your account to somebody new, all your 10 accounts, he will change the personnal infos and he will pay you your 600$
    - Great isn't it?
    - Yeah it is!
    - And it's Perfectly rational isn't it?
    - Of course!
    - Apparently what is left of your brains decided to land on a kuckoo's nest...
    - What?
    - Who is gonna get this person to buy my accounts?
    - You are...
    - Oooh, so it's pretty normal to you that i wasted so much time, trying to get a customer, to register him under my branches and to make him work for me? Is it normal that i will find now an imbecile dropping down from the sky that will accept to go through the whole goddamn modification process so he can get my accounts, don't you think he's gonna suspect this "booming business" this "Priceless life opportunity", this "wonderful job" less booming and priceless and wonderful once i sell him my accounts cause i couldn't get even one person to register with a 60$ account?
    - Well it's not their problem if you failed at the business.
    - You don't make any goddamn sense, we got owned, lesson learned, let's move on.


    --- and he never apologized, it has been four years now---
    GMI will tell you, it's not your friend's fault, it's you who accepted, yh i accepted cause one my best friends dragged me into this...

    And there it is dear friends, i am sorry for the huge wall of text. I really hope that from my experience, people will think twice about throwing away their money, if you have cash to spend, do it on something else. Or else you will be just one more Goldseller, advertising e-gold, getting insulted, blocked by spammenot. or worse your friends and familly... I lost a really close friend, 2 friends, and almost a cousin...