Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

MrClass wrote

dav wrotemost of the world is on symmetrical fiber optics broadband connections and we still use the adsl standards....enough to explain our situation....we are veryyy far away from other countries

edit: i see that minister boutros harb didnt had enough to stop going forward... he ruined what nicolas sehnaoui started...

Very sad really. Yesterday Etisalat upgraded my Internet speed at home for free. 10Mbps to 20Mbps. Never had to complain about performance issues ever. Such a relief really.

Corruption in Lebanon, will it ever end?

i really don't know what to say...

Adnan wroteToday I noticed that my modem started syncing on ADSL2+ after being on ADSL1 for more than a year.
I was expecting the max rate to increase but it only got worse (was 8Mbps now is 6 to 8), and the SNR is dropping between 11 and 6.

I tried re-syncing on ADSL1 (G.DMT) but apparently it got much worse, I could only get 3.5Mbps out of my 4.

Allow me to tell you sir that you're living in heaven.

LifeEngineer wrote

Adnan wroteToday I noticed that my modem started syncing on ADSL2+ after being on ADSL1 for more than a year.
I was expecting the max rate to increase but it only got worse (was 8Mbps now is 6 to 8), and the SNR is dropping between 11 and 6.

I tried re-syncing on ADSL1 (G.DMT) but apparently it got much worse, I could only get 3.5Mbps out of my 4.

Allow me to tell you sir that you're living in heaven.

Lemme post this real quick

Max Rate (Kbps) Up 1056 Down 14764

random-username wrote

LifeEngineer wrote

Adnan wroteToday I noticed that my modem started syncing on ADSL2+ after being on ADSL1 for more than a year.
I was expecting the max rate to increase but it only got worse (was 8Mbps now is 6 to 8), and the SNR is dropping between 11 and 6.

I tried re-syncing on ADSL1 (G.DMT) but apparently it got much worse, I could only get 3.5Mbps out of my 4.

Allow me to tell you sir that you're living in heaven.

Lemme post this real quick

Max Rate (Kbps) Up 1056 Down 14764

Wow, ADSL paradise!

random-username wrote

LifeEngineer wrote

Adnan wroteToday I noticed that my modem started syncing on ADSL2+ after being on ADSL1 for more than a year.
I was expecting the max rate to increase but it only got worse (was 8Mbps now is 6 to 8), and the SNR is dropping between 11 and 6.

I tried re-syncing on ADSL1 (G.DMT) but apparently it got much worse, I could only get 3.5Mbps out of my 4.

Allow me to tell you sir that you're living in heaven.

Lemme post this real quick

Max Rate (Kbps) Up 1056 Down 14764

I concur

Maximum Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1.185 / 23.388 xD

But ya ret it will be applied. lol

random-username wrote
Lemme post this real quick

Max Rate (Kbps) Up 1056 Down 14764

Lemme post this real quick


Max Rate (Kbps) Up <512 Down 1056 max

What I noticed about ping is that it increased by 10 to 20ms after the switch to ADSL2+. I thought it had to do with the interleaving mode, so I switched to ADSL1 again (which only has fast mode as far as I know), but nothing changed. Not too bad, still acceptable for gaming.

I would really like to know how you guys manage to see what your max rate is. If it's just a firmware upgrade, then which and how would be amazing to know as well. I'd be grateful if I could get some help.

This is what mine looks like: http://prntscr.com/bhj9e7 System Information: http://prntscr.com/bhj9vg

Adnan wrote

Kazouza wroteI would really like to know how you guys manage to see what your max rate is. If it's just a firmware upgrade, then which and how would be amazing to know as well. I'd be grateful if I could get some help.

This is what mine looks like: http://prntscr.com/bhj9e7 System Information: http://prntscr.com/bhj9vg

I don't know if it's possible on your modem. But you can still get an estimate using online calculators. I tested your stats (downstream attenuation) on these three tools and the estimates were around 2.5Mbps (for ADSL2 and ADSL2+).

http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/calc/index.php?param=RG4gMjA0MiBEbiA2MC41IERuIDE3LjYgRG4gMg==#res
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/626639
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/max_speed_calc.php

Note however that the max speed doesn't mean that it's attainable. Even though my modem shows up to 8Mbps max rate, Sodetel turned down my request to upgrade.

it’s because your snr will drop like hell when you upgrade the speed... around 5db for each mb...and you should maintain an snr margin > 15db after the upgrade so you don’t get disconnected frequently...

dav wrote

Adnan wrote

Kazouza wroteI would really like to know how you guys manage to see what your max rate is. If it's just a firmware upgrade, then which and how would be amazing to know as well. I'd be grateful if I could get some help.

This is what mine looks like: http://prntscr.com/bhj9e7 System Information: http://prntscr.com/bhj9vg

I don't know if it's possible on your modem. But you can still get an estimate using online calculators. I tested your stats (downstream attenuation) on these three tools and the estimates were around 2.5Mbps (for ADSL2 and ADSL2+).

http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/calc/index.php?param=RG4gMjA0MiBEbiA2MC41IERuIDE3LjYgRG4gMg==#res
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/626639
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/max_speed_calc.php

Note however that the max speed doesn't mean that it's attainable. Even though my modem shows up to 8Mbps max rate, Sodetel turned down my request to upgrade.

it’s because your snr will drop like hell when you upgrade the speed... around 5db for each mb...and you should maintain an snr margin > 15db after the upgrade so you don’t get disconnected frequently...

Yep, that's right. That's why I wondered why these calculators don't ask for the SNR margin, because my max rate varies slightly depending on the current SNR margin.

My SNR margin is usually around 10 - 11dB. Sometimes it drops to 6 but the CRC errors counter skyrockets.

Are you facing unusual high ping and lag while playing? I noticed it this weekend with my Terranet DSL but with an Ogero dsl it was fine. I called Terranet they said many are calling complaining about that and it is because of high traffic at the centrales.. And today also on the Ogero dsl I had 300-400-500 ping.. (playing Smite)

The ministry is planning on lowering internet prices!!
Source:boutros harb's facebook page.

Thats a very good thing if they are serious about it.

But where are the new speeds? Internet content has been getting bigger and bigger in size. With more HD content and streaming services gaining traction around the world, staying at the current speeds would lag Lebanon even far behind (although I can't see where can we go even more behind than what we are at right now)

And with decreasing prices, more people would want to use the ADSL service which will put more strain on the network. Its already barely keeping up, if at all, to the demand of the current users.