Khaled
Im looking for the best parts to get with a limited budget of 450 USD (from pcandparts)
I want CPU, motherboard, case, power supply, and RAM.. i already have a GPU which is Nvidea GT 240 and i have a harddisk so i dnt need one.
This is what i came up with until now:
Name Price ($)
Intel DH67VR w/VGA+Sound+SATA+Lan&PCI Express 89
ThermalTake VL80001W2Z V3 Black Edition Case 45
Kingston DDR3-1333 2GB 24
Kingston DDR3-1333 2GB 24
Intel core i5-2400 3.1 GHz 195
I am confused which PSU to choose, and if you have a better solution to what i already chose then i would appreciate any suggestions.
tigerheart-hackers
What are you going to use that computer for? Also, is your HDD fast enough to respond in time to CPU commands? A slow HDD could result in bad overall performance.
Khaled
Im using it for games, am not really a hardcore gamer but im never satisfied with the "medium" or "low" standards... and as for the speed of the HHD well to be honest i am not sure how i can know that exactly.. precise speed i mean ... all i know it rotates at 7200RPM.. maybe this is the speed yet again i dnt know if this is what you are asking about lol
rolf
Get a brand psu if you can. With a little chance you'll find one at a low price.
elzalem
based on your budget, this PSU looks good:
Thermaltake W0311RE Litepower 430W $46.00
As for the HDD, 7200RPM is the standard for desktop computers.
You also need to see the HDD's interface if it's sata2 or sata3 since your board has sata3 connectors. (I doubt a regular HDD can saturate this bus, so it's not that important).
If your HDD is older than 18months, get a new one.
Khaled
@elzalem Yes i saw this on PCandparts but i wasnt sure it was good or bad considering the low price.. i hear there is a certain minimum of amps delivered by the PSU and i wasnt sure if this one would be enough to support my card and the whole PC.
@rolf Yes indeed i am beginning to notice this apparently itll be hard to get a decent one for a low price
and about the HDD what exactly is he difference betwene SATA 2 and 3 coz as far as i remember most probably its sata 2.. so if we consider it to be sata 2 and the ports on the board are SATA 3 then will the thing work or just a lower performance or in other words i would appreciate if anyone would tell me what would happen coz i dnt wanna have to buy a new HDD if it is not mandatory
elzalem
Your card's specifications
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_240_us.html
Maximum Graphics Card Power (W) 69 W
Minimum Recommended System Power (W) 300 W
That PSU should be able to handle this load plus the CPU's.
Sata2 is capable of transferring data at 300 MB/s between the board and the HDD, sata3 does that at 600MB/s.
You don't need a new hard drive, you can use your old one and it won't run slower because it is sata2.
Khaled
ok great then, ill just stick to the litepower on pcandparts and on my old HDD i dnt really care about the HDD as long as it doesnt run slower than before. I thank you for yr help i really appreciate it
yasamoka
What resolution are you running? That case is nice, by the way. But I suggest you get 3 additional 120mm fans and install them in the case. You can find those anywhere. 800-2000 rpm will do since you can control them from the motherboard via software (speedfan).
Khaled
well im running at 1440*900 resolution (monitor is viewsonic VA1918wm)
and about the case yeah a couple of fans wnt damage anyone i know ill add some fans for extra cooling but i doubt itll actually need them that much.
shant
the cooler your hardware the longer the lifespan :D
i learned that the hard way :P
Khaled
well yes obviously :P but when you are limited to a tight budget, you really do not have a large variety, all i am trying to do is get the best with what i have.
shant
hmmm, since you're not going to overclock with that intel board its fine, the case you chose is more than enough to cool stuff, but if i were you, id save just a little bit more and get a better motherboard!
cons of intel boards are
cheap parts
chinese capacitors
lack of features
on board sound sucks
its ugly
most importantly no overclocking!! (some do but no vcore mod and won't oc good)
id recommend you get a gigabyte board or asus, overclocking is your choice and risk, but if you did overclock you're gonna get a lot of performance from that 450$ build :D
Khaled
yeah i know shant, but i really dont wanna get in to over-clocking since there is the slightest chance of damaging my system. And to be honest im afraid to choose a board different than an Intel one for the single reason that i never tried anything else and simply i really dnt know which is best.. i am a noob in such things considering this is the first time i actually buy parts.
now i considered you advice, and looked at Gigabyte boards on pcandparts, problem is they are expensive, but i found this one:
Intel DH67CL w/VGA+Sound+SATA+Lan&PCI Express (DDR3) (LGA1155) ( NEW VERSION ) $102.00
Intel i know but looking into the specs its much better than the one i had already chose and it has more ports, more RAM trays etc. more expensive but better in the long run if i wanna upgrade in the future. I'm not really worried about built quality since i will not over-clock and i will not really expose it to really heavy duty for prolonged periods so yeah ..
any more suggestions are most appreciated
AvoK95
you really should spend more money on a better motherboard because like shant said they are very cheaply made and not worth the price (im using an intel board and hating it , i got it because it was my only option when i built my pc) the chipsetrun very hot and lacks overclocking features.
i recommend Asus P8H67 B3 $158.00 if your not an nvidia SLI fan . if your looking to go a little more cheaper go with ECS P67H2-A3 V1.0 B3 (DDR3) $104.00
i can't provide you with a SLI board because PcandParts isn't importing them anymore :S
as for the powersupply if you're going to run a dedicated vga card go with 550 650W if your going with crossfire or SLI go with at least a 750W PSU and look for high amperage.
Enlight ENP-550AAB 550W PSU 12CM Fan $68.00 is a realy good PSU for average OC ing and everyday use
Inwin IRP-COM650 650W PSU $135.00 is a psu for a enthusiast so that they OC the heck out of the cpu and also run a single vga card
Inwin IRP-COM750 750W PSU $155.00 <---25$ diffrents from the 650w version and its modular (like the 650w) you can use this PSU if your going with an awsome upgrade in the future (im getting this one in too weeks)you can run 2 SLI/Crossfire cards on this , its might ever run tripple cards (but im not sure yet)
it has 4x12v Rails at 18A each which is good , it comes with a carrying back so that you can put the modulre cables that you're not using ect. bottom line this is an awsome awsome PSU for a gaming pc poweruser pc and its good for OC-in too
Khaled
what i gathered from all this thread is be smarter and save more money to get something worth it .. i really appreciate all yr replies guys i think ill wait a little bit more, give it 2 months and them i may actually gather enough to get a something good. thanks everyone
