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Mhmd

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I heard from insiders that the ministry is considering reducing its price of 2 megs international line from $3000 to less than $400 per month!

Hope that's true to happen very soon.

and for those who notice every single thing, I want to ask you if you noticed the new telephone boxes in the streets, if you noticed beside each OLD box they built a NEW one, any idea about it ?? Is it about the Fiber optics thing ?

Plus, the 2 meg line is sold to ISPs for 2700$ per month, how can ISPs sell the 2 meg for 200$ per month ??
I think they do multiplexing or something, but would that be profitable to them ?

andy1123

how will that benefit consumers?

Mhmd

Lower Prices !

nuclearcat

and higher speeds, less quotas

monkey-d-luffy

no quotas*

Mhmd

well if the prices are lowered, new E1's must be available in the market
these E1's are those of the IMEWE since we already have it !, so lower prices, highers speeds and higher quotas,
hope that these are the steps followed by the ministry to be achieved SOON

kareem_nasser

@nuclearcat: You are saying that as a VISP employee, so the news is solid?

Raficoo

nuclearcat wroteand higher speeds, less quotas

less quotas as in lesser limitations, or am I thinking the opposite? :P

nuclearcat

kareem_nasser wrote@nuclearcat: You are saying that as a VISP employee, so the news is solid?

I am not aware that prices will drop.
Just explaining what benefits end-users will see

nuclearcat

sure i mean more traffic in quotas... quota is negative word for me, so i was thinking "less negative"

xterm

I will not take anything seriously until i see a price sheet on ISP websites.

The only exception is if nuclearcat mentions news.

Mhmd

I will not take anything seriously until i see a price sheet on ISP websites.

price sheet on ISP websites is the same since 2007

kareem_nasser

xterm wroteI will not take anything seriously until i see a price sheet on ISP websites.

The only exception is if nuclearcat mentions news.

That is the reason why i asked him as a VISP employee. I hope he tells us about it before it spreads.

xazbrat

Dropping the price on the wholesale level is one thing, dropping the price and/or quota's on the retail level is another. If the rumors are true and the price drops, there better be lower prices or higher quotas otherwise it does us the consumer absolutely no good.

<sorry for the rant>

nuclearcat

Price for backbone and availability if 50% showstopper for consumer satisfaction.
Other 50% if backbone around country.

HotCreep

I heard that rumor somewhere as well. I'm not sure if that can be done before starting to use the IMEWE 'services' so to speak. I guess they currently don't have enough bandwidth to sell at such low prices. right?

jp-3482

What would be the strategy for lowering E1 pricing ? I'm skeptical of their benevolence, the Lebanese government would not give up on that money unless it's for political reasons. Are they afraid of the unrest in nearby countries?

That being said the government may force Fast-Ethernet (100Mbps) on resellers for the same price $2700. If that happens then the government would not be losing any money assuming that they can honor the $200 cost for that 100Mbps connection. In the western world, $1/mbps is becoming the standard so I think it's viable.

A reseller with a current commitment of several E1's would be forced to convert them to 100Mbps. That's honestly the only way I could see it happen, otherwise they're shooting themselves in the foot.

xterm

Mhmd wrote
I will not take anything seriously until i see a price sheet on ISP websites.
price sheet on ISP websites is the same since 2007

I meant a NEW sheet.

rolf

Mhmd wrotePlus, the 2 meg line is sold to ISPs for 2700$ per month, how can ISPs sell the 2 meg for 200$ per month ??
I think they do multiplexing or something, but would that be profitable to them ?

The link you get from ISPs is a shared connection, you will be sharing the 2mpbs with a lot of other users, which means that depending on your luck and the time of the day you can reach 2mbps from time to time. Also they do things such as throttle P2P (bittorrent, etc..), make you go through a transparent proxy to reduce traffic and sometimes limit the number of sessions. Then they will impose a limit on volume, public (Quota) or secret (FUP).

Also ISPs have to go through Ogero for upload, but for download they can use their own satellite connection. If they do that (apparently they do to spare some more price) it will result in big lags.

The 2 meg line at $2700 is guaranteed 2mbps in both directions with stable latency, without any conditions.

Regarding the topic, the government have made a lot of announcements. You are just reminding us about how unreliable an un-serious they are. I will consider that something happened when something is actually completed (as opposed to promised) and we can see the difference.

xazbrat

JP wroteWhat would be the strategy for lowering E1 pricing ? I'm skeptical of their benevolence, the Lebanese government would not give up on that money unless it's for political reasons. Are they afraid of the unrest in nearby countries?

I do honestly think that the publicity of being the world's slowest nation has begun to wear down on the people in charge--how can someone take pride in the fact that this happened while on their watch. They are trying to stem that by putting out some news to make them seem that they are doing their jobs-add to that the unneeded publicity of a lawsuit, a feud with the government owned telecom (Ogero), and other missteps, finally it seemed that something else was needed.

As we all know, talk is cheap.