i have read the article,
it seems interesting, but as much as i hate to be the "hater" someone has to take up that role and
for the greater good i shal sacrifice myself :P

1- the level of connectivity you get using this device is amazing, but i highly doubt it is either affordable or practical
2- i dnt believe it will be as "fast" or "effecient" as they claim it to be, and comparing it to a desktop PC is a bit of a mistake on their end
3- motorolla

EDIT:
i wrote clame instead of claim :/ i hate mornings
Zusynoid-x wrotei have read the article,
it seems interesting, but as much as i hate to be the "hater" someone has to take up that role and
for the greater good i shal sacrifice myself :P

1- the level of connectivity you get using this device is amazing, but i highly doubt it is either affordable or practical
2- i dnt believe it will be as "fast" or "effecient" as they claim it to be, and comparing it to a desktop PC is a bit of a mistake on their end
3- motorolla

EDIT:
i wrote clame instead of claim :/ i hate mornings
the way it is thought to run is to actually have two "desktops", your mobile webtop/phone screen and the remote terminal. the remote terminal would be running on as a virtual host on a cloud. this is exactly the direction the technology trend is heading towards.


the device itself is required to self sustain with the webtop and on the hour of need be expandable to a desktop level. if you would look at companies that run enterprise infrastructures, you would see that end desktops are becoming terminals. these terminals run on sessions from citrix or ms rdp or then again vdi. the hardware requirement to run as a terminal is even less than what that device has! the only thing required is a decent data connection.

sci-fi visionaries have always envisioned that the future is based on possessing one device that does it all and you get different features based on what you "interact/connect" it to, to the likes of the ring in the tron movie.

the benefit of such requires a revamped infrastructure where you have:
- good data connection
- a terminal to connect to
- a multicapable device

actually i have been doing that for quiet a while, ive been using ever since my nokia 9300 (about 5 years ago).
I have used the "office applications" that are local to the device.
I have used the multimedia features of the device
I had installed putty and vnc client to remote connect to a pc desktop to perform other tasks
I have had a good data connection all the time.
today having an N900, I can do the same and more:
I can connect the N900 to a monitor and use the monitor as a desktop
I can use the N900 for local office applications
I can use the N900 for multimedia
I can remote connect rdp/vnc to desktops and perform tasks otherwise not possible on n900

in short, the Motorola and android has not been novel with what was presented in the video, the main thing that they have done is repackaged the same things I have been doing only making it look sexier.

the contradiction to this is that on having such a multicapable device, it covers the range from basic need all the way to advanced requirements. it does not leave a place for tablets. a tablet would either become an option to a mobile or then again would be deprecated and optimized to serve other features. so in short. the tablet world of IPAD is only a proto of what the world could be heading towards but is not the definite final form, position and role that it will poses in the future. apple has been smart about that and concentrated on just scaling existing apps and media content (epapers/emagazines). the future will be much broader and apple will either have to brake its monopoly on its tablet as for what content can run on it, or loose the market to other vendors who once again will take the old thing and just make it look sexy.

do note that, in that in the next upcoming version of meego, the hardware would definetly have hdmi and usb, and hopefully should have the flexibility of the maemo, now its up to intel and nokia to create a decent user interface and webtop that would run on it.


the future is not about binding features hardware its about making features available across all hardware. the same thing as with linux history, have linux run on all possible hardware, even you digital watch!

the main difference between android, meego, symbian and ios is the OS architecture and optimization. when it comes to optimization, android and ios have failed. meego is still in its infancy but has the symbian behind it from which to adapt and the symbian has yet to shed its skin. it is because of the question of optimization that we have seen during the last couple of years a demmand in hardware performance on the mobile devices. a comparative example.

the N8 runs on a 600mhz processor while its competition, android and ios based devices are running on almost twice as powerful cpu to achieve the competition. the hardware have not been the issue as in the pc world. it simply is due to not having things optimized. symbian and meego are ahead of ios and android in that field. the later are compensating with additional hardware performance.

ok its great to have additional hardware performance, but for what? for it to remain idle most of the time in your pocket with less operating time due to power consumption?

well, all this is still an old school subject. new school is about how you can really cross operate and integrate across hardware. that is where QT comes in, develop once, port to all platforms. have you got an application running on one device and for some reason you need to continue your work on another device or terminal, just do a click and you continue your work on the other terminal. you are not binded to a hardware platform, you are not binded to an OS, you are not restricted by monopoly, its all open to you to decide on what you want to do.
will you marry me

EDIT:

ok, now

the thing i understand is that all those capabilities available on this motorolla are , already done by us on the N900

ie: i use OpenSSH to connect to my laptop that is running linux mint from my N900 other than all the connectivity n900 provides i think we can agree
that its high end connectivity is not something a regular consumer can use but its because we have knowledge in these things thus we can do it

however now all that connectivity is/will be available soon to any consumer in a beautiful slick package.

why not just develop over Maemo or the future MeeGo this type of slick package? <= this will happen, it's a rhetorical question

however the changed factor here, in my opinion is PURELY the docking and the hardware
Eventually, mobile phones will be all that's left. It'll become your personal computer and your method of telephonic communication. But that's way, way into the future. For now (and for the next decade), laptops, let alone mobile phones, will be too weak to perform some of the tasks high-end desktops can. If laptops cannot match the performance of desktops, neither will mobile phones.
Tako_400 wroteEventually, mobile phones will be all that's left. It'll become your personal computer and your method of telephonic communication. But that's way, way into the future. For now (and for the next decade), laptops, let alone mobile phones, will be too weak to perform some of the tasks high-end desktops can. If laptops cannot match the performance of desktops, neither will mobile phones.
I have to disagree, one of the reasons as why there has been lots of hype arround mobile devices is because components are becoming more readily available with more integrated features and power. things are not as distant as you put it.
BashLogic wrote
Tako_400 wroteEventually, mobile phones will be all that's left. It'll become your personal computer and your method of telephonic communication. But that's way, way into the future. For now (and for the next decade), laptops, let alone mobile phones, will be too weak to perform some of the tasks high-end desktops can. If laptops cannot match the performance of desktops, neither will mobile phones.
I have to disagree, one of the reasons as why there has been lots of hype arround mobile devices is because components are becoming more readily available with more integrated features and power. things are not as distant as you put it.
I do agree the technology is moving forward. And I do agree that eventually, both mobile phones and PC's will become one. But not as soon as you put it. There is a reason laptops aren't as powerful as desktops. The smaller the component, the harder to make and the more expensive it will be, at least for now.
Tako_400 wroteI do agree the technology is moving forward. And I do agree that eventually, both mobile phones and PC's will become one. But not as soon as you put it. There is a reason laptops aren't as powerful as desktops. The smaller the component, the harder to make and the more expensive it will be, at least for now.
Typical gamer point of view. Someone who consider anything below an i5 to be worthless. Computing is changing. Google understands it, Microsoft understands it, Apple understands it, we're on the verge (literally) of going completely mobile.

Anyway, we're all agreeing on the same thing. I just think that the power of an iphone (833 MHz) is largely enough for computing, media playing and web browsing. What we're lacking is habits, software and usability, but definitely not power.
rahmu wroteTypical gamer point of view. Someone who consider anything below an i5 to be worthless. Computing is changing. Google understands it, Microsoft understands it, Apple understands it, we're on the verge (literally) of going completely mobile.

Anyway, we're all agreeing on the same thing. I just think that the power of an iphone (833 MHz) is largely enough for computing, media playing and web browsing. What we're lacking is habits, software and usability, but definitely not power.
Stop assuming things. And when these mobile devices that are supposedly ready to take over from computers can work with video, play demanding games, or even open a picture a couple of megapixels big, then you'll have the right to spew off some bullshit about typical gamer point of view or whatever. But until then, mobile devices are still worth shit and are not meant to be used as one's main source of computing power. Far, far from it.
Unless they install better keyboards (whether hardware or touch-based) in mobiles, I strongly doubt cell phones will be taking over desktops and laptops.
ok, lets put it this way,
history has shown us how human technology has evolved during the last several hundred years. what we have achieved within this period has been epic in pro and con to any subject. in comes the world war 1 and later world war 2. most of the technology that we use today is based on concepts conceived during world war 2. since the thirties we have seen numerous technologies that were the root to the computation world that we all are familiar with today. the PC world roughly began in the early eighties. for a period of a decade, we saw how hardware and os + applications were vendor dependent and restricted. in comes Steve Jobbs and Bill Gates who in turn brake that monopoly pushing OS and software onto third party hardware. we saw the rise of apple and its almost vanishing form the market. we saw microsoft rise to the occasion more than once and we saw how Linux reordered what its predecessors had done. for between 1994 and 2005, the mobile world was dominated in the same manner. in between 2005 and 2007 we saw how vendors attempted to patch their products for the evolution that was required. symbian was cranky? why so? simply because at that point, symbian was never really developed for a gui. it was developed for menus. the change came sometime arround 2006. ever since then, we have seen the equivelent evolution which took the pc world over a decade. during the last 5 years we have seen the equivelent development as what took the pc work in between 1980 and 1994. in comparison, with the mobile world, today we are where we were with the pc back in in 1994 with the internet and windows 1995.
in my opinion the only thing missing from the n900 keyboard is SLIGHTLY bigger buttons and a tab button

but as i said before, the attrix in the article is all about hardware ( the docking ) that is what makes it so special
what it does isnt really that new