recommendations for a smartphone

abouelchich · 2010-07-02T09:39:31+00:00

Hey guys, i 'm having a difficult time making up my mind on which Smartphone should i buy? preferably touchscreen,...

vegetaleb

Yep and windows 98 is better than windows 7
Oupss sorry for bb internet speed, edge faster than wap?
Anyway there are not such as wap connection,wap is a protocol like http,alfa and mtc call it wap but it's simply edge.Now they slow it a bit more than the GPRS of fixed line or edge of bb but still it's nothing like compairing edge and 3G

Kareem

samer wrote
vegetaleb wroteBB internet is as slow as wap...in Lebanon of course
Don't misinform people. The BIS is running on EDGE and is definitely faster than WAP.

it's theoretically faster but not practically. Most of the time both are overloaded making the difference barely noticeable. GPRS and WAP are both powered by the same ISP and sharing the same bandwidth but with different quota and policies.
EDGE can enable data transfer rates of up to 1024 kilobits/sec vs 0 to 170kbps for GPRS

But the reality is that operators will not allow you to attain that speed. Max speed I got using GPRS was 68kbps at 4:00 AM vs 79kbps at the same time, same operator. During day time, the average speed is somewhere between 20-30kbps ( peak attainable transfer rate is another story, it's just that you rarely reach it) I have a bandwidth meter on my PDA and the edge speed is really pathetic, not to mention the latency.

Mobile internet in Lebanon is power by poor bandwidth provided by ISPs like Terranet etc.. that already have pathetic latency and stabiliy.

EDGE in Lebanon was implemented by Motorola providing a platform that uses packet compression technology providing enhanced data rate transfer over GPRS theoretically activated by a software and some tranceiver units installed on the BS. No changes were made to the core network

We are still using a 8-PSK modulation therefore the maximum speed is somewhere around 60kbps...
You only get higher speeds when the modulation is shifted to QAM ( 16 or 32 ) which is not the case in Lebanon. Using QAM you can get up to 800kbps download speed with reduced latency almost to half.

Now back to the topic, I'm a fan of HTC smartphones but Nokia is catching up lately with some great new products. However, I won't drop my HD2 until I find a good alternative.

Kareem

vegetaleb wroteI have Alfa and I filled correctly the WAP APN from their own settings but it will not connect,it's the user agent that doesn't support the 1995 data connection that Alfa proudly use OR the Lebanese wap proxy that is ''banned'' from Google,that would explain why the Edge data works(without proxy)!
I hope the next network companies will FORMAT the entire data plans structure,because ALL the networks in the world WAP,Edge or 3G work perfectly with the Nexus One,this is really getting ridiculous

see here, you can use WAP on your laptop

http://www.lebgeeks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=5534

babum

man, with my current network provider you gotta be lucky if the down speed surpasses 5kb/s I mean real lucky.

battikh

while in lebanon, i was steadily getting 200+kbps when on edge
but well, that was 7months ago, have to see if since then there are much more customers and the network is now saturated.

babum

yes thats true, also I saw that alfa changed its Bis plan from 40$ 500mb to 40$ 100mb is this correct? or did someone do a major screw up on their webpage?

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