Changing ISPs

Shatilov

Currently I'm with Cyberia, and I have a 1MB connection.

When I log to play online in CoD4, and TF2, there is many servers that I see as blocked or I dont have access to them because of my ISP. I get around 8000 server with Fake pings (the server lists 200ms, & when I enter the game it is 700ms :@:@:@ so freaking annoying)

I also have another Internet Connection Wireless DSL 512K
Those servers that are blocked or cann't be accessed with cyberia, i can access them with this connection & I also get around 14000 server. this is better as latency is around 200 & 300, it can access more servers.

I mainly use Cyberia for Download & the other ISP for online gaming, but lately their FUP has been forced on me, & their internet keeps disconnecting

I was told Sodetel have a gaming package that a person can activate, it will give him a way better latencies & a fixed IP.
I already contacted them & asked about the price of 1Mb connection + Gaming Package & they replied 90$.
when I told cyberia that I'm changing they tried convincing me that they are the best & that this FUP service is for our benefit, etc... & that the other ISP have the same FUP.

So is there here anyone that uses Sodetal ? Do they have open ports, is their latency good (with the gaming package) if i dont get the gaming package, then I dont intend to change ISPs, I mainly want to get an ISP with good Pings & not a stupid FUP.

So i can lower my internet fees. I want to download at night & not have my download throttled & also I want to play online (when not downloading) but not have high pings.

I heard that sodetel service gives you 3 green bars in MW2, if that is true, then their Online Gaming is amazing, and thus all that remains is their FUP & night downloading ?

can you please help me.

Kassem

Dude seriously, search the forums before posting. This issue has been discussed over and over again, we're sick of it! I do not intend to be mean or anything but there are NO GOOD ISP's in Lebanon. They're all the same with very slight variation that is barely noticeable. If you want my advice, just go for Ogero.

Aj_BlaZ

today i called sodetel about my application it was accepted and i need to wait another week ( they promised :/) after waiting for 1 month and 4 days .
i will test my connection for sure and i will reply back :) , but i can tell you that my friend is already with sodetel plus the gaming package and hes downloading every day from 11 pm to 7 am without any fup But he have wasta ....

wollyka

Sodetel is good for gaming, and i think their FUP is less"restrictive" than Cyberia

Aly

Heavy downloaders aren't welcome in any ISP (except Ogero of course :P), for gaming you might find several options like ogero and Sodetel and maybe other ISPs that put you 24/7 on their fiber optic backbone(s), but again you wont find any ISP that welcomes 11-7 downloader, someone will have to compromise (and it is definitely not the ISP).

Hybrid

I usually get around 250~300 ms to world of warcraft while playing....

but yea Cyberia FUP totally sucks, a month ago, before they increase the prices, the connection was the same, but with better FUP :)

Leonedes

Heres my experience .. i dont know what they mean by " gaming package " the only thing that makes latency better is the fixed ip in lebanon, I used to get around 250 ms on World of Warcraft EUROPE , BUT heres the twist ... when free downloading starts, dont even think about getting a latency lower than 800 .. i used to have a latency of 300 ms at 10:59 which jumps to 1200 at 11:00 !

Hybrid

mark.assad wroteHeres my experience .. i dont know what they mean by " gaming package " the only thing that makes latency better is the fixed ip in lebanon, I used to get around 250 ms on World of Warcraft EUROPE , BUT heres the twist ... when free downloading starts, dont even think about getting a latency lower than 800 .. i used to have a latency of 300 ms at 10:59 which jumps to 1200 at 11:00 !

But the question is, how much do you download a day or month and how often do you get FUPed?

amkahal

Terranet is really improving their connections day by day, delay to europe is ~130 ms (95% of a day),and 190~220 to USA, so guys, take Terranet into your account when changing ur ISP.

gamer4life

Yes, Terranet are improving their connections very much and their pings are now low like ogero.

kareem_nasser

@gamer4life you forgot your ISP :IDM too but in your region.

Fernand

anyone in Beirut has felt improvements in latency?

kareem_nasser

i have but not as much as gmer4life did and i am with the same ISP (IDM) like 100-200ms decrease max but on FB it is still 514ms.

Aly

I am with IDM and I live in Beirut:

here are my result when I ping bbc.co.uk :

C:\Users\Aly>ping bbc.co.uk -t

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=116ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=117ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=117ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=116ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=117ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=117ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=117ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=117ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=117ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=117ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=117ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=117ms TTL=116

Ping statistics for 212.58.224.138:
    Packets: Sent = 12, Received = 12, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 116ms, Maximum = 117ms, Average = 116ms

and a trace route to bbc.co.uk :

C:\Users\Aly>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    94 ms    99 ms    99 ms  dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
  2    44 ms    42 ms    42 ms  10.151.144.1
  3    43 ms    42 ms    43 ms  172.50.1.4
  4    43 ms    45 ms    41 ms  10.0.1.26
  5    43 ms    42 ms    42 ms  213.175.184.193
  6    42 ms    42 ms    42 ms  212.36.211.33
  7    44 ms    42 ms    43 ms  172.16.41.5
  8   117 ms   117 ms   116 ms  195.50.120.69
  9   118 ms   117 ms   116 ms  ae-11-51.car1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.139.66]
 10   117 ms   117 ms   118 ms  195.50.118.242
 11   266 ms   204 ms   205 ms  212.58.238.129
 12   117 ms   117 ms   118 ms  virtual-vip.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138]

Trace complete.

But dont let those results lure you, because it is like that for about 50% of the day, after 5 or 6 PM till 3 or 4 AM the latency is about 400-500ms if not even higher (sometimes it reaches 1500 ms).

kareem_nasser

Thats my result all day even after 11pm:

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=366ms TTL=112
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=363ms TTL=112
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=361ms TTL=112
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=361ms TTL=112
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=365ms TTL=112
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=363ms TTL=112
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=361ms TTL=112
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=361ms TTL=112
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=361ms TTL=112
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=362ms TTL=112
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=362ms TTL=112
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=361ms TTL=112
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=360ms TTL=112
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=362ms TTL=112

gamer4life

kareem_nasser wrote@gamer4life you forgot your ISP :IDM too but in your region.

You're right kareem but the problem is that it is only low in weekends, other that it's high (400-500ms)till 9p.m and sometimes 6p.m after that it gets back low till the morning. And by the way my ping in my ps3 is 131ms ping and 3ms jitter this's with the jerusalem server but in my laptop it's 170ms, is it because the ps3 is closer to the router?

Hybrid

Cyberia 512, no FUP... at 10:50pm

That's my result:

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=139ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=139ms TTL=116
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=142ms TTL=116

Ping statistics for 212.58.224.138:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 139ms, Maximum = 142ms, Average = 140ms

and traceroute same time:

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    33 ms    99 ms    99 ms  dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
  2    43 ms    41 ms    42 ms  10.180.10.1
  3    45 ms  2177 ms    48 ms  172.50.1.14
  4    45 ms    46 ms    44 ms  10.0.1.2
  5    44 ms    44 ms    43 ms  192.168.77.5
  6    53 ms    48 ms    47 ms  212.28.239.25
  7   210 ms   211 ms   212 ms  63-218-55-33.static.pccwglobal.net [63.218.55.33
]
  8   307 ms   219 ms   250 ms  TenGE13-3.br02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.12.246]

  9   138 ms   142 ms   150 ms  bbc-gw1-linx.prt0.thdoe.bbc.co.uk [195.66.226.10
3]
 10   145 ms   142 ms   139 ms  212.58.238.133
 11   137 ms   137 ms   141 ms  virtual-vip.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138]

Trace complete.

XhacK

Aly wroteHeavy downloaders aren't welcome in any ISP (except Ogero of course :P), for gaming you might find several options like ogero and Sodetel and maybe other ISPs that put you 24/7 on their fiber optic backbone(s), but again you wont find any ISP that welcomes 11-7 downloader, someone will have to compromise (and it is definitely not the ISP).

+1

I have the sodetel gaming package and I'm getting a low latency and almost the same ping as a 2mb ogero user(friend) in MW2!!

about the FUP, there is no ISP in lebanon that have "unlimited" download quota....for that contact your local cable guy!