It would be awesome to run PS OS on PC :-) but I think the games are coded in a way that is optimal for the PS hardware and it will be work-intensive and inefficient to port them. OS X on the other hand runs on mostly standard intel hardware. Maybe XBox OS would be a good candidate too.rahmu wroteI have a question: Why do you guys always ask for Mac OS X to be released for PC, but have no problem with Symbian, Xbox OS (?), Playstation OS (?), and the likes to be bundled with their own hardware?
Apple manufactures Macs, just like Sony manufactures Playstations. Microsoft produces an operating system that hardware manufacturer could use (impose ?) for their hardware.
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How is that in any way different than right-clicking the connection icon in your system tray, hit properties, select the adapter you want and change the IP address?rolf wroteIn OSX it's: click on the apple on the top left, choose "system preferences", then click on Network, then choose the adapter you want on the left and the IP address will appear on the right.
I'm sorry i fail to see where that is much of a big deal. I understand that you dislike it, but that, in no way makes the operating system impractical.
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Again, you cannot place a mac, pc, blackberry, ps3, xbox, refrigerator, toaster, car, plane or anything else in the same category.rahmu wrote... and Macs are Macs.Computers are computers, phones are phones, console are consoles.
I do not agree with the politics of Apple. I am merely pointing out that Apple is trying to separate Macs from 'computers'. After all, you can browse the internet and play multimedia with a PS3. So why is it NOT a computer?
*** A computer is any device that computes info, preferably with elctronic circuits. The distinction is that Microsoft only sells the software to run computers. Hardware manufacturers can chose to run it. A lot of server manufacturers chose not to use it.
I don't know if I'm clear enough. Think about this:
What makes a Mac a computer more than a blackberry or a PS3?
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I'm not exactly sure how you cannot see the fact that:
MACs - Capable of installing OSX, Windows, Linux
PCs - Capable of installing Windows, Linux and NOT OSX
This picture is wrong. I'm not here to say that there's no reason behind OSX only running on Macs. It's not a technical limitation, it's a business decision.
None of the reason given so far dictate the business aspect of things.
All i'm seeing is "Because that's how it is! that's how we want it!"
Edit: Concerning the ***'d section of your post (which i highlighted), Doesn't that mean that Microsoft is more lenient than Apple? Doesn't that mean that Linux community is as well?
I had no problem installing Ubuntu on a Mac either. Here's my problem with PC manufacturers and Microsoft.xterm wroteI'm sorry what? Have you ever NOT been able to replace windows with another OS? Oh sorry, except for Apple's OS, which Apple IMPOSES it only running on apple hardware.rahmu wroteApple manufactures Macs, just like Sony manufactures Playstations. Microsoft produces an operating system that hardware manufacturer could use (impose ?) for their hardware.
Have you ever read the End User License Agreement (EULA) Microsoft has you agreeing on when you first buy a laptop/desktop? It is the license you sign to use Windows on their terms. It clearly says towards the end that if you were to refuse the terms, the hardware manufacturer would refund you the cost of Windows license. Have you ever tried doing that? It is only until 2008 that Dell has started to barely accept such demands. HP is also somewhat compliant. It took a friend of mine over 6 months to get his refund from HP. He got back 50€ !! Sony, Toshiba, Asus, Acer, Siemens, Fujitsu and so much more, these companies NEVER give back. So in a way, not only are they not respecting the license, but they're IMPOSING to buy the OS. And what can you do? Go in court against Sony? Are you crazy?
At least Apple's agreement is clear from the start. If you want to use our hardware, you'll use our software. And vice-versa. If you disagree don't buy. How is it different from what Sony does I don't understand?
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Please quote the License section, all i'm seeing in the EULA concerning refunds, is that they clearly say "Based on the manufacturer's policy".
AndD. REMEDY FOR BREACH OF WARRANTY. The manufacturer or installer will, at its election, either (i) repair or replace the software at no charge, or (ii) accept return of the product(s) for a refund of the amount paid, if any. The manufacturer or installer may also repair or replace supplements, updates and replacement software or provide a refund of the amount you paid for them, if any. contact the manufacturer or installer about its policy. These are your only remedies for breach of the limited warranty.
Then again that's only related to breaching warranty.WARRANTY PROCEDURES. Contact the manufacturer or installer to find out how to obtain warranty service for the software. For a refund, you must comply with the manufacturer’s or installer’s return policies.
Erm... I think i got lost in what we're trying to achieve here.
Apple makes a premium OS that runs on obsolete hardware. Now if you like the fact of paying a premium price for 6month old hardware then good for you. And I'm sure most of you know what 6 month old hardware means.
They just started to get into gaming now with Steam working on the Apple. But there is no real affordable Apple machine that can run those games with reasonable amount of graphical satisfaction.
So the end case is, you pay big bucks for stability on an old machine. It's like paying big bucks to buy an Atari/Nintendo because all you had to do to fix the games was to blow into the cartridge. Now THAT was stable. :)
They just started to get into gaming now with Steam working on the Apple. But there is no real affordable Apple machine that can run those games with reasonable amount of graphical satisfaction.
So the end case is, you pay big bucks for stability on an old machine. It's like paying big bucks to buy an Atari/Nintendo because all you had to do to fix the games was to blow into the cartridge. Now THAT was stable. :)
And what do you gain by buying a PC? For non-gamers....beezer wroteApple makes a premium OS that runs on obsolete hardware. Now if you like the fact of paying a premium price for 6month old hardware then good for you. And I'm sure most of you know what 6 month old hardware means.
They just started to get into gaming now with Steam working on the Apple. But there is no real affordable Apple machine that can run those games with reasonable amount of graphical satisfaction.
So the end case is, you pay big bucks for stability on an old machine. It's like paying big bucks to buy an Atari/Nintendo because all you had to do to fix the games was to blow into the cartridge. Now THAT was stable. :)
what do you gain by buying a mac? For pretty much ANYTHING.rolf wroteAnd what do you gain by buying a PC? For non-gamers....
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...xterm wrotewhat do you gain by buying a mac? For pretty much ANYTHING.rolf wroteAnd what do you gain by buying a PC? For non-gamers....
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Edit: Posted before your edit. Kept the content intact.
Edit #2: Wlik, stop editing lol!
Again, it's *most* of the time not the operating system that's faulty.
OS X, Windows, Linux, Unix and the lot are a matter of choice, each have their own disadvantages and their own advantages.
Edit #2: Wlik, stop editing lol!
More like, more time trying to find a suitable alternative to an application that does the job.rolf wroteMore time doing things that are more fun then reinstalling and formatting.
Again, it's *most* of the time not the operating system that's faulty.
OS X, Windows, Linux, Unix and the lot are a matter of choice, each have their own disadvantages and their own advantages.
Yeah I guess I'm misusing the edit function.
Anyway, its a matter of preference. I am sure Mac will provide you with things that PC never can, and the opposite is also true.
Anyway, its a matter of preference. I am sure Mac will provide you with things that PC never can, and the opposite is also true.
Personally, I find it quite irritating that one of the best text editors available, is only available on Macs.
TextMate
TextMate
I never ever used it... I use TextWrangler. I should give it a try.xterm wrotePersonally, I find it quite irritating that one of the best text editors available, is only available on Macs.
TextMate