Fast satellite internet

rolf

Anyone knows how to get real Interet over satellite in Lebanon?
It is just not comptetitive for a business in lebanon to have to wait 1/2 minutes for every page to load, and hours for a file to arrive, or to pay thousands per month.

Required:
- 8+ GB/month transfer
- REAL 1mbps up and down (not shared with 50 other users)
- High latency for browsing

J4D

first of all its illegal and i guess the first part ends it all :P , ill do a search for you if i find something useful ill tell you :) i remember viewing a site advertising that (in lebanon)

check this http://www.wafa.ae

nuclearcat

- REAL 1mbps up and down (not shared with 50 other users)
- 8+ GB/month transfer

This 2 things not compatible. If you want dedicated access - you pay for dedicated BANDWIDTH. If you pay per traffic, well to keep your 1Mbps guaraneed just for 8Gbit... 1Mbps have potential of 316 GB/month.

1Mbps on satellite for end-user DOWN only will cost around $1500-$2500 per Mbit.
Dedicated up 1 Mg(VSAT SCPC) will require satellite modem (around $4000), BUC 1-5W(illegal in Leb for end-users) around $100-500 and price for BW will be slightly more expensive than dedicated download.

- High latency for browsing
LOL! You mean LOW latency? It can be reached with accelerators.

And last thing, internet in Leb slightly cheaper than satellite internet access. Transmission to satellite is highly illegal in Lebanon.

J4D

nuclearcat wroteTransmission to satellite is highly illegal in Lebanon.

but then who cares here if i even contact aliens with a 100 meter diameter dish :P no one cares :D although i wish they care .

arithma

How about a geek center, where we can share resources and each can attend to their own ends?
But then again, we're all from Lebanon, somehow someone will screw everyone else.

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BTW, as far as I know, the ether is monitored. I know radio spectrum is, and if you are noticed, you can easily be triangulated, positioned and prosecuted. I know it's been done since the 80's here by the army! Don't take it lightly. Anyway, the legal alternatives are cheaper.

J4D

arithma wroteyou can easily be triangulated, positioned and prosecuted. I know it's been done since the 80's here by the army!

can you tell me how can someone triangulate your position when using an omnidirectional super tiny tini wini wave reaching for the sky called a satellite UP/DOWN link :) id better rent a helicopter for an hour and spot them ops my plan wont work either nearly every building has a satellite tv dish :D or perhaps you can get your hand on some 3 geostationary satellites located over our region ? :P the bottom line its safe to get internet from satellites in Lebanon although its illegal :P .

@rolf: i just remembered that i have a friend who operates an illegal ISP in the south using a sattelite link , ill ask him about the details :)

rolf

Thanks nuclearcat. I was hoping with new technologies it was more accessible and I had missed something.
I mean low latency, of course :-)
Yes 8GB is not much, but the number was taken from current consumption.
I do some work online, manage domains
, etc, and I cant stand it anymore to wait 1/2 minute for changing every setting. Also the delay takes away most of the pleasure of browsing the internet. What I mostly want is something responsive, and that will stay responsive even if someone else is doing a big upload/download on the same connection.
Since, unfortunately, internet satellite is still expensive, I mean buying something illegal is ok, but the prices you gave are outside budget.
BTW, when i said real 1mb, i did not mean necessarily dedicated, but pretty close to dedicated is good.
I wanted to look into internet accelerators, do you have anything to recommend? I want smth that will compress HTML, compress multiple file in one, and maybe not send files which did not change (for example if the CSS did not change, do not send it again)
Also I should work at night, on OGERO connection, since they do not have "happy hour" (2x night speed deals and such) so they should have lots of extra capacity then.
@jadberro, thanks too :) please do!

chosen2k

look at this guys i just found that let's hope it is real !!!!!

go to speedtest.net and then click on world results ( on the top of the page) and click your location until u see the list of the ISP's in lebanon.

You will see the ranking of all ISP in lebanon .... check out the first one on the list, some1 IN lebanon is browsing the internet at a 4.5mb connection....

that someone is globalproof i googled them they do exist but look a bit shady ... Tomorrow im calling them 100%

J4D

global proof that's visp i guess !

edit : reduced number of exclamation marks to appear less happy :P

chosen2k

Why are you so happy ? is there anything i should know ?

chosen2k

jadberro wroteglobal proof that's visp i guess !

edit : reduced number of exclamation marks to appear less happy :P

You are actually right, they are the same people as Visp, same phone numbers and support.

But they do have a 4.5mb connection. How come?

arithma

jadberro wrote
arithma wroteyou can easily be triangulated, positioned and prosecuted. I know it's been done since the 80's here by the army!
can you tell me how can someone triangulate your position when using an omnidirectional super tiny tini wini wave reaching for the sky called a satellite UP/DOWN link :) id better rent a helicopter for an hour and spot them ops my plan wont work either nearly every building has a satellite tv dish :D or perhaps you can get your hand on some 3 geostationary satellites located over our region ? :P the bottom line its safe to get internet from satellites in Lebanon although its illegal :P .

@rolf: i just remembered that i have a friend who operates an illegal ISP in the south using a sattelite link , ill ask him about the details :)

You **hole!
OK guys, we've sorted it out. I won in the private conversation but as it turns out, satellites are much more focused than radio.. ARMY HAS NO CLUE! Let the illegal activity on

J4D

arithma wroteARMY HAS NO CLUE! Let the illegal activity on

haha its been on since these things came to lebanon ! :D

rolf

arithma wroteOK guys, we've sorted it out. I won in the private conversation but as it turns out, satellites are much more focused than radio.. ARMY HAS NO CLUE! Let the illegal activity on

Dude, you're late.
Yes you are right, but the prices make then uninteresting for private use (check nuclearcat's reply).
But satellite internet creates a price ceiling for internet prices in lebanon. ISPs can get bidirectional satellite material, maybe camouflage them if they have no license, and then redistribute internet.
In other words if there was no satellite technology I think we might be paying even more for internet.

nuclearcat

arithma wroteBTW, as far as I know, the ether is monitored. I know radio spectrum is, and if you are noticed, you can easily be triangulated, positioned and prosecuted. I know it's been done since the 80's here by the army! Don't take it lightly. Anyway, the legal alternatives are cheaper.

Even no need for army. I bought spectrum analyzer(kind of expensive tool) and i can triangulate and find transmitters.
It is trivial.

nuclearcat

jadberro wrote
arithma wroteyou can easily be triangulated, positioned and prosecuted. I know it's been done since the 80's here by the army!
can you tell me how can someone triangulate your position when using an omnidirectional super tiny tini wini wave reaching for the sky called a satellite UP/DOWN link :) id better rent a helicopter for an hour and spot them ops my plan wont work either nearly every building has a satellite tv dish :D or perhaps you can get your hand on some 3 geostationary satellites located over our region ? :P the bottom line its safe to get internet from satellites in Lebanon although its illegal :P .

@rolf: i just remembered that i have a friend who operates an illegal ISP in the south using a sattelite link , ill ask him about the details :)

It is not so tini mini. Especially because BUC transmission power usually not less 1W. Beam also not a laser, and can be intercepted outside of direction of antenna.

On spectrum analyzer i am able to catch 50mW transmission 1km away.

nuclearcat

There is private VSAT modems and easy installation (TDMA/FDMA), actually they work pretty well. Most probably they will fit all needs... i will check more, if Astra service works in Leb (i have some connections there).

J4D

nuclearcat wroteOn spectrum analyzer i am able to catch 50mW transmission 1km away.

i would like to know more about that ! maybe some pictures some info or something , i know i can google it but feedback from a user is appreciated .

nuclearcat

Maybe i will make youtube videos later :-) How i'm doing that :-)

chosen2k

spectrum analyzer? astra?

I have no clue whatsoever what these are. To much advanced geekiness for me.

Time to google.