well the razor mouse is a good addition, but PC gaminig is unbeatable ..... as regarding to ping ,,, i found a server with good ping (200-250)still bad ping , but that doesnt stop me from getting 50 kills in one game :D if you have xfire and you are able to locate cracked servers, tell so i will give you an adress of my favourite server , its not very tough and its closely omonitored for bots an HAX :D

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nourberro wroteWoW!!!! GN90 i agree world of warcraft seems too stupid an boring , holding the most and clicking,clickingWTF MORE CLICKING?? :P its just plain stupid! :@ i guess best games made are shooter, andcars of course ;)
Billions of dollars as revenue says otherwise :\
i will have to agree on this issue with nour , W0W ?? its just killing brain cells regardless of the revenue ;)
scientific experiences have PROVEN that doctors who are also gamers perform better in their jobs. they have better hand-eye coordination, work better in a team, have more attention, concentrate better, ...
so i don't think it has anything related to killing brain cells...
im not talking about games in general ;) its just WOW , dont get me wrong . but yes i totally agree with you :)
nourberro wrotewell the razor mouse is a good addition, but PC gaminig is unbeatable ..... as regarding to ping ,,, i found a server with good ping (200-250)still bad ping , but that doesnt stop me from getting 50 kills in one game :D if you have xfire and you are able to locate cracked servers, tell so i will give you an adress of my favourite server , its not very tough and its closely omonitored for bots an HAX :D

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i quit pc gaming sorry, now im playing Bad Company on my 360 and waiting on fire for MW2 in november, to bad the pc version was delayed :P and LFD2 as well .
hmmm well about WoW, i just hate it cuz it has no complexity, i go to to the (network) and all see nowadays are people smudging theyre heads to the screen , holding the mouse and CLICKING CLICKING!!! :S and btw COD series has made good revenue ;) but its hated by most WoW players as well ;) my total time of WoW and warcraft / (dotta) is around 15 minutes in TOTAL ! i just cant stand these games , theyre just too weird for me! i like games to have at least a fraction of reality, and to require skills !!

and for PC gaming, i cant get enough of it , i feel the keyboard was created for gaming ,,, when i look at the letter keys, all i see is (W,A,S,D ) ctrl, space, and SHIFT! :D im a microsof hater! running a monopoly on the computer enterprise has got so silly ! and they want to get the gfamers as well,, NOT ON MY WATCH BILLY BOY!! :P but you cant get enough of windows, oh screw it time for FSX! :S
about WoW and Warcraft well they are no games anymore, it is a culture now ! they are sooooooo addicted because of the extremely well plot they offer and well you know mmo's they are so addictive cause they game is running even when you're not playing so you need to always play the game form long hours in order to reach higher levels. why warcraft is so special well it got awesome gameplay and you need to co-operate to win the battle and its a strategy/rpg based game so being a shooter it is your opposite style.
im no warcraft player or fan cause im not strategy player and to play the game you need to know all the hero , .... it is a big world and interesting plots.

as for this pc gaming vs console.
good for you can play with w, a, s, d . im a lefty so i have problems with controls makes me madddddddd a lot. sure mouse and keyborad are more accurate when it comes to shooter but for other genres like action , hak n slash, sports the controller is by far the best even new controllers are not bad when it comes to shoter u just need to get used to it.
oh yeah i agree WoW is addicting once you get attached! but i just cant stand it so i never will get addicted , nd i think the fact that the game never ends makes it so addicting just like you said,

not bout PC on console, PC is good for only shooter games you say, but you can also get your controller on the pc ;) i play pro evolution soccer on my pc using my PS2 controller! PCs are just so versatile , but you gotta admit consoles are a formiddable opponent xD

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pc are just easy to mod, add some third party stuff, .... but they are costy when it comes to games and certainly have much better graphics now ! and speaking of controllers buy a 360 controller far better believe me.
I'm not totally sure how "Addictive" has anything to do with it. If you dislike it, that's totally acceptable, not everyone likes mmo. Yes it gets boring. Clicking? If you're clicking, you're doing it wrong.

However, saying that the game requires no skill is rather incorrect.

The simplest point i can lay out for you is the class skills available to you.

http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=7.5&filter=cr=12;crs=1;crv=0

The link above shows 50 different priest class skills, of which and depending on the scenario you're playing in, would require you to be using most of them at a certain point.

Each game has its requirement skill wise. RTS proper micromanagement, FPS proper aim and awareness and so on, RPG requires precise knowledge of mechanics as to properly decide how to improve your avatar, as long as the knowledge of how each skill synergizes with the rest and with the team with you.

There's more diversity in an MMORPG than there is in any other game, World of Warcraft or not.
who said that WoW require no skills ?
i think NB said about that clicking thing because the game require clicking :p and you need to be fast with it. a por WoW or any strategy game player will rarely use his mouse, mostly rely on hotkeys.
GN90 wrotewho said that WoW require no skills ?
nourberro wrotemy total time of WoW and warcraft / (dotta) is around 15 minutes in TOTAL ! i just cant stand these games , theyre just too weird for me! i like games to have at least a fraction of reality, and to require skills !!
GN90 wrotei think NB said about that clicking thing because the game require clicking :p and you need to be fast with it. a por WoW or any strategy game player will rarely use his mouse, mostly rely on hotkeys.
If you're clicking, you're doing something wrong.

You can and advised to bind all your keys :-)

Back when i used to play, my key bindings were:

Standard provided:
1 -> 9 = Default action bars
F1 -> F5 = Default Party access
WASD, Tab and so on

Manually set:
R sR aR cR
T sT aT cT
C sC aC cC
V sV aV cV
F sF aF cF
G sG aG cG
X sX aX cX

Pretty much every possible key on the keyboard mid to left(as far as my hand can reach, without leaving the AWSD area) combined with alt or ctrl or shift.
nourberro wrotei just cant stand these games , theyre just too weird for me! i like games to have at least a fraction of reality, and to require skills !!
OMG igot trashed 5 times nd didnt even know it ........ well guys i dunno maybe the game is great nd everything...... but i cant FREAKIN stand it!! i dunno y but i got a problem with mmo nd these stuff that have continuous game play that force you to stay glued to your computer screen :S i dunno bout these hotkeys cuz ive played 15 minutes only , all these wizard and unreal stuff just seem so unappealing to me.

thanks for sharing guys! :D

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PacMan and Pong. Hands down.
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beezer wrotePacMan and Pong. Hands down.
i dunno if youre being sarcastic, but i still play pacman :D
Sonic the hedgehog !!!!!! sega version
GN90 wroteSonic the hedgehog !!!!!! sega version
+1 :D
i have them on my pc ! anyone need them pm me