RTX 2080ti - Nvidia "Turing" Upgrade

Tech Guru wroteRT is a true generational leap in the gaming industry (AMD will follow sure in their upcoming Navi cards ) , some think its a mere reflections here and there that adds on the graphical fidelity of the image. It is a lot of rendering computational power , that Hollywood movies usually use rendering farms to do it. Now its is available to the end gamer , which is good.

Say you have a scene in your game with 1000 objects in it, no problem at all for a modern GPU. It takes each object, one after the other, and first finds out what area of the screen the object is visible in. For each of those pixels it executes a shader, which calculates the color of that pixel based on the object's material, textures, lights and the lights in the scene. Relatively speaking that's a very small amount of data that you need to do the calculations.

GPUs do this super quickly because the color of the pixel doesn't depend on anything except that one object's data and the lights in the scene, so you can calculate thousands of pixels at the same time using thousands of tiny processors. Modern engines then do all kinds of post processing steps, where they take the finished image and combine it with other data to do lots of neat effects like SSAO or bloom.

Ray tracing works completely different. In ray tracing you're shooting a ray into a scene and you have no idea before hand what it will hit. So every ray needs to have access to all the objects in the scene, their materials and so on, at the same time. Even if you knew which object a ray would hit what happens when that object has some reflective properties? Or say you put a bright red object next to a white one, some of the red color will reflect onto the white one. So each time you hit something you need to shoot even more rays from there, hitting other objects, and then you need to combine the results of all those to get the color of the pixel.

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anayman_k7 wrote

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When the drivers are mature are more enough and DLSS role out , 1080 will not have a chance. 1080ti need to be compared with the 2080ti and 2080 with the 1080 .

the 1080ti is screwed deep but people who paid a hefty amounts for their 1080tis are trying to "self convince themselves"that upgrading to turing is not worthy , to deep inside they new a gen to gen architectural changes , increase in cuda core , new meomey ,new optimizations , new features is always a win situation. Truth about evolving tech were " self convincing" to stick themselves with old gen.

I disagree, you compare the GTX2080 with the GTX1080Ti for now, because later on we will compare the GTX2070 with the GTX1080Ti, you compare 'What you pay/What you get' not what is that number equal that number (generation by generation), unless these cards are provided for free.

Edit: And I don't think a sane person will buy a thing that could prove itself later on (if we could), go check Reddit 99% of users canceled their 2080 orders for the 1080Ti

You are wrong with that logic

2080 replaces the 1080
2080ti replaces 1080ti
2070 replaces the 1070

Also ,

The new cards are not made to give you 300 fps on 4k. It is made to make ray tracing possible on a 800$ card, instead of 68,000$.

Still DLSS is not tested ,DLSS + RT 》》》 Old Gen 1080ti ,remember in some titles the 2080 in some titles pulled ahead of the 1080ti. Still reviews start to roll out wait couple of weeks / months ahead and the gap will be widen of 1080 vs 2080 and 2080ti vs 1080ti.


Hardware Unbox was the 1st to confess that they are wrong with their pereception about new gen:

"Geforce RTX 2080 & 2080Ti Review , I was Wrong"
https://youtu.be/dLjQR0UFUd0

DNA wroteTechguru you are 100% right with your points about the tech and everyone else are on point with their disappointment. The 2080 should have smoked the 1080ti under all conditions just like the 1080 smokes the 980ti

Guys it's simple new tech costs money and since the 1080ti is still better than any offering from a competitor, nvidia made the 2080ti super expensive because it has the NEW Technology if you find it expensive and you don't need the tech simply you buy 1080ti since there is no competition so it's a win win for nvidia because there is no point for any company in the world to release a product that competes with its own products and pushes their price down thats why they slapped a premium price to the new tech so they don't push 10 series price down
from a user perspective i am disappointed but from a business perspective I salut nvidia for their great business move and market placement for their cards...

AVOlio wrote25-31% performance increase from 1080ti to 2080ti, with a price increase of 70%?

No thanks, i'l get me a 1080ti whenever i find a good deal.

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anayman_k7 wroteThe benchmarks are out, based on price per performance it seems that the GTX2080 is a bad buy when it has a slight better performance compared to the GTX1080Ti with less VRAM and for 100$ to 150$ more!

When the drivers are mature are more enough and DLSS role out , 1080 will not have a chance. 1080ti need to be compared with the 2080ti and 2080 with the 1080 .

the 1080ti is screwed deep but people who paid a hefty amounts for their 1080tis are trying to "self convince themselves"that upgrading to turing is not worthy , to deep inside they know a gen to gen architectural changes , increase in cuda core , new memory ,new optimizations , new features is always a win situation. Truth about evolving tech were " self convincing" to stick themselves with old gen.