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ROG-STRIX-RTX2080TI-O11G-GAMING



Major Changes Compared to other FE & Custom RTX 2080ti Cards:

✅16 Phase VRM

✅New more Efficient p
Power Stages with Efficiencies Up to 95%

✅Vmem Controller is 4 Phase on this one.

✅Vmod area for Controlling Various Voltages on the card. (Not Implemented Just a Placeholder.)

✅More Filtering Capacitance

✅Bios Switch

https://youtu.be/N6A_UWwYgkA

My Previous

ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING

Served Me Well.
12 days later
4 days later
The New Sweet Spot for 1440p is now 2070. It Sits between 1080 & 1080ti in traditional rasterization.


2070 has Less Cuda Cores & texture units than the 1080( 2304 vs 2560 & 144TU vs 160TU) yet the 2070 is faster -till now the gap will increases as drivers will become more optimized , developers get use to the new architecture etc.

Take a look at the Die Leap :

2070 (TU 106) :445mm2 , 10.8 billion transistors

1080(GP 104): 314 mm² , 7.2 billion transistors

With an added advantage of :

DLSS ( 25 Supported titles till now waiting to be patched only including PUBG , Shadow of the Tomraider , FF 15 ...) , RT Cores , Tensor Cores , AI , Neural Networks

HDR Tone Mapping

Hybrid Rendering

Dedicated HDR PipeLine to reduce latency with HDR , HDR on Pascal is a real latency mess up since it is SW processed.

GDDR6 (448 GB/s vs 320 GB/s of memory bandwidth on the 1080)


DP 1.4 with DSC

RT

It is a definite leap in technology.

HardOCP:

Is Turing Faster?

With both video cards operating nearly at the same frequency this creates an interesting scenario. We are basically looking at two video cards with similar clock speeds. We can estimate if GeForce RTX 2070’s Turing architecture might be faster than the previous Pascal architecture. It is important to realize there are more SM Units but less CUDA Cores (64 CUDA cores per SM versus 128 on Pascal) and Texture Units on GeForce RTX 2070 when compared to GeForce GTX 1080. In terms of GPU performance, this would mean slower performance on GeForce RTX 2070 if clock speed is the same. However, Turing is a new architecture. There are technically more SM Units, even if there are less CUDA Cores per SM. What we can then gather is if the architectural changes make up for the loss in overall CUDA Cores and Texture Units.

According to our testing the results all signs point to yes, the Turing architecture is definitely superior to, and faster than, the Pascal architecture at similar clock speeds. In all of our testing the MSI GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING Z consistently provided faster performance at 1440p and 4K compared to the MSI GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X video card, despite having a CUDA Core and Texture Unit deficit, at the same clock speeds. Let’s break it down.

https://m.hardocp.com/article/2018/10/14/msi_geforce_rtx_2070_gaming_z_performance_review/12
The launch of the GTX 2070 including the information that Nvidia pulled out the FE edition which costs 600$ from the reviewing samples and requested 500$ model review samples from 3rd parties proves that the previously launched 2080 and 2080Ti were badly priced, where the 2080Ti is the king of performance but very expensive and the 2080 was absolute by the 1080 Ti which costs less but has same performance. Hopefully Nvidia continues in the rational direction but the current damage dealt of the price increase where the XX70s used to have a MSRP around 350$ (hence why the 970 is the most sold GPU) but now that number is 500$
10 days later
I need to summarize some points


For Those Who Are Asking Why RTX 2080ti Has an MSRP of 1200USD I will summarize to you:

2080ti ( TU 102)

752 mm2 die size
18.9 Billion Transistors
Cuda Cores: 4352
Tensor Cores: 544
RT Cores: 68
GDDR6 @ 14Gbps on 352 Bit Memory Bus = 616 GB/s Memory Bandwdith

1080ti ( GP 102)

471 mm2 die size
14billion transistors
Cuda Cores: 3584
Tensor Cores: N/A
RT Cores: N/A
GDDR5x @ 11Gbps on 352 bit Memory Bus = 484GB/s Memory Bandwidth

% Increase in Die Size
(752 - 471)/471 × 100 % = + 59.66 %

% Increase in Transitors Count
(18.9 - 14) / 14 × 100% = + 35 %

%Increase in Cuda Cores
(4352 - 3584) / 3584 = + 21.5 %

Added factoring the Cost of GDDR6 that resulted in:

% Increase in Memory Speed
(14 -11) / 11 = + 27 %

% Increase in Memory Bandwidth
(616 - 484) /484 = + 27 %

Added Factor the Cost of Adding of
+ 544 Tensor Cores and + 68 RT Cores




Tech is always obsolete , and waiting is pain in the ... .

What are your gaming needs in #present , for me 2160p 60hz and even 3440 × 1440p 100hz , the 1080ti ( heavily OC'd to 2100mhz core and 11.8 Ghz memory) failed especially with the min fps on 2160p. A 30 % on average with regular rasterization ( on lunch more with more drivers update , developers etc. ) aside from RT or DLSS , enhance my gaming experience now , why I need to wait for one year + having gaming experience with several IQ compromises on 2160p with the 1080ti. I Enjoy what tech #currently offers me.

Second, HDR processing on Pascal is done by SW without a dedicated pipeline inducing stutter and latency. Turing resolved this issue with hardware level dedicated display pipleline and HDR tone mapping.

With more and more AAA titles adding HDR 10 or Dolby Vision meta-data why i need to wait again to enjoy HDR gaming as a some who has a compatible HDR display.

Third, the 1080ti fails to hit 144fps on 1440p 144hz or 100hz on 3440 × 1440p 100hz without IQ compromises , and these two resolutions needs AA ( 2x msaa at least) not the shitty FXAA. I am willing to drop the PG 35vq ( 3440 × 1440p @ 200hz with 10bit HDR) , RTX 2080ti would be a better value for me.

Fourth, RT AI Neural Networks Tensor Cores DLSS set a base line for hyper rendering beside cuda cores for traditional rasterization. It an added advantage but the above point are my key motivators to upgrade not RT , DLSS etc..
I think you're missing the point TG. When talking about the value of the RTX cards, people are referring to performance per dollars, i.e FPS/dollar, nobody really cares about cores/dollar or diesize/dollar or vram/dollar or whatever. If 2080 ti RTX had a SMALLER die, yet produced +70% perf over the TI, people would be considering it good value. the fact that it only has 25-30% perf improvement vs the roughly +70% increase in cost makes it a poor proposition, especially compared to previous gen upgrades. That's the only metric that counts. And no, consistent 60 fps at 4k doesn't justify the price either.
Yes there's RTX and DLSS, and they could very well change the whole story, but until games (not benchmarks) start implementing them we can't really assess their value. Until then, the RTX generation as it currently stands remains poor value, and this is coming from someone who bought a 2080 (got a good price for it though!).
PowerPC wroteI think you're missing the point TG. When talking about the value of the RTX cards, people are referring to performance per dollars, i.e FPS/dollar, nobody really cares about cores/dollar or diesize/dollar or vram/dollar or whatever. If 2080 ti RTX had a SMALLER die, yet produced +70% perf over the TI, people would be considering it good value. the fact that it only has 25-30% perf improvement vs the roughly +70% increase in cost makes it a poor proposition, especially compared to previous gen upgrades. That's the only metric that counts. And no, consistent 60 fps at 4k doesn't justify the price either.
Yes there's RTX and DLSS, and they could very well change the whole story, but until games (not benchmarks) start implementing them we can't really assess their value. Until then, the RTX generation as it currently stands remains poor value, and this is coming from someone who bought a 2080 (got a good price for it though!).
I second this opinion, If we used the same logic to justify increasing the GPU models defined prices for older generations we could reached much higher numbers by today, GTX 280 to GTX 480 to etc etc
It's time for ATI to make a move, if they can propose 1080ti or 2080 performances for 500-600$ they will destroy nvidia.
I love gaming but nvidia is way too overpricing their new gen cards, add to that you have to buy a new i7 and PSU to follow with the power requirement to no get a bottleneck
This is the 1st time I consider getting a PS5 if it goes out soon, I have been a PC gamer for the last 7 years but paying 1000$ for GPU alone every 2 years is way too much
infiniteloop wroteIt's time for ATI to make a move, if they can propose 1080ti or 2080 performances for 500-600$ they will destroy nvidia.
I love gaming but nvidia is way too overpricing their new gen cards, add to that you have to buy a new i7 and PSU to follow with the power requirement to no get a bottleneck
This is the 1st time I consider getting a PS5 if it goes out soon, I have been a PC gamer for the last 7 years but paying 1000$ for GPU alone every 2 years is way too much
No need to pay top dollar if you're OK with console quality, 1050ti or 1060 6g are great cards.
1000$ gpus are really only necessary for the "masterrace" 4k60 or 1440p 144hz
anayman_k7 wroteAnd then, boom, hold on your orders people, except Tech Guru, the 2080Ti might be faulty
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-graphics-cards-dying/
I have been following this issue closely mate , some of friends got the 2080ti in Lebanon ( no issues at all till now) ,it is affecting mainly the FE ( due to overheating VRAMs due to the chamber cooling design) no sold data till now since if you flip the coin not all 2080ti owners are facing the same issues. We need solid data for a final conclusion.

It might be a faulty batch
Tech Guru wrote
anayman_k7 wroteAnd then, boom, hold on your orders people, except Tech Guru, the 2080Ti might be faulty
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-graphics-cards-dying/
I have been follwing this issue closely mate , some of friends got the 2080ti in Lebanon ( no issues at all till now) ,it is affecting mainly the FE ( due to overheating VRAMs due to the chamber cooling design) no sold data till now since if you flip the coin not all 2080ti owners are facing the same issues. We need solid data for a final conclusion.

It might be a faulty batch
I was reading Reddit, even some models that are not FE had issues, but yeah mainly the FE models are the majority of the affected cards, but without an investigation and statement, all models are in risk
risk or not , if it breaks its under warranty

@Tech Guru , there's 2 choices Palit 2080TI 1300$ And MSI TRIO 1400$

The thing both are unavailable right now MSI will be coming in 2 weeks high demand and palit there's only 4 coming in 4 days so i went with the Palit and the owner said either way if it breaks i will replace it for you so don't care about this much and he's also a good friend of mine and i trust him i get all hardware from him in the last 10 years.

so the choice is to go with Palit
ManOwaRR wroterisk or not , if it breaks its under warranty

@Tech Guru , there's 2 choices Palit 2080TI 1300$ And MSI TRIO 1400$

The thing both are unavailable right now MSI will be coming in 2 weeks high demand and palit there's only 4 coming in 4 days so i went with the Palit and the owner said either way if it breaks i will replace it for you so don't care about this much and he's also a good friend of mine and i trust him i get all hardware from him in the last 10 years.

so the choice is to go with Palit
It is a shop in Lebanon Mate , are these prices VAT incl. May You PM his contact
11 days later
The Power of RTX 2080ti

BF 5

> 80Fps

Ultra , TAA , 2160p

The 1st True 4k60Fps Graphic Card.
smacks head :xD


my overclocked 1080TI reach 68-70fps :xD with everything maxed

yeah 2080TI is a good value :)
ManOwaRR wrotesmacks head :


my overclocked 1080TI reach 68-70fps : with everything maxed

yeah 2080TI is a good value :)

The 1st True 4k60Fps Graphic Card is the 2080ti

In regular rasterization and HDR Latency my ex 1080ti strix OC'D to 2100mhz Core & 11.7 Ghz Memory with an i7 8700k ( 5Ghz on all 6 Cores) & 3200 Mhz Memory - Failed me well on 2160p with sub 60Fps experience and a lot of IQ Compromises on Many AAA titles.

I Enjoy the #present tech and hate waiting.

Just Preordered the

ROG-STRIX-RTX2080TI-O11G-GAMING
Tech Guru wrote
ManOwaRR wrotesmacks head :


my overclocked 1080TI reach 68-70fps : with everything maxed

yeah 2080TI is a good value :)

The 1st True 4k60Fps Graphic Card is the 2080ti

In regular rasterization and HDR Latency my ex 1080ti strix OC'D to 2100mhz Core & 11.7 Ghz Memory with an i7 8700k ( 5Ghz on all 6 Cores) & 3200 Mhz Memory - Failed me well on 2160p with sub 60Fps experience and a lot of IQ Compromises on Many AAA titles.

I Enjoy the #present tech and hate waiting.

Just Preordered the

ROG-STRIX-RTX2080TI-O11G-GAMING
Gratz on your preorder , it doesn't make it a good card though performance/price ratio , however if money is no concern enjoy it :)

On a side note 2016p/60 fps is not the gaming way 1440p/144hz is the way to go that if u really wanna enjoy smooth gameplay , i'am a multiplayer/pvp guy myself so to me 60fps is not the way to go that's why i had 1080TI in SLI , sadly nvidia ruined sli as well , i think i will hold a bit on the preorder that new series has nothing to offer no fps, rtx/dlss is nowhere to be seen in games the whole situation doesn't look good , it's more like nvidia is trying to milk people's money and i don't like to be milked even though i can afford it , still i would feel like they raped me , so i will hold on this one , lucky me the msi didn't arrive in time .
Yes ever since I saw 144Hz, I couldn't go back. I couldn't care less about having more pixels. High refresh is much more enjoyable. 1440P/144Hz is the best of both worlds