jibbo wroteHave been thinking of getting a controller for my PC, just for a little change from the keyboard/mouse.

What do you think about this Xbox 360 Wireless Controller ?
https://macrotronics.net/product_info.php/microsoft-xbox-360-wireless-controller-for-pc-p-13490
That's too expensive for what is a last generation product.

They had the Xbox One controller almost at the same price, even a bit cheaper. I believe it was the Xbox One S controller too, with Bluetooth support (no wireless adapter needed). You can pick up a Bluetooth dongle for ~$10 from several places.

Macrotronics are currently not listing the Xbox One S controller, so you might want to shop around a bit. A recommended accessory is the Play & Charge kit, although it might be tough to find it here. You might need to get it from abroad.

An alternative is the DualShock 4 controller. It might be a preferred design to you, based on the size of your hands and how you handle a controller. However, the DS4 is of lower build quality than the Xbox One controllers, particularly apparent with the trigger buttons (LT / RT in Xbox controllers, L2 / R2 in DS controllers), and has no native XInput support, meaning you would need to use DS4Windows or any similar tool in order to make the controller appear to Windows as if it is an Xbox controller that can now be used in most modern games that often either support XInput exclusively or most maturely (e.g. no rumble over DirectInput). This has the disadvantage of showing you button prompts for the Xbox controllers instead in games, meaning you would have to match in your head what they mean on your own DS4 controller (becomes easier over time, but can still be annoying). Some games support the DS4 natively, like Rise of the Tomb Raider, which means full rumble support as well as pristine button prompts. Most games, however, do not do so and you are therefore left in the cold regarding those button prompts, unless there is a mod available for that / you make one. You'd also have to turn off that guzzling LED at the back using DS4Windows otherwise your battery life would be abysmal. My own DS4 controller also had issues where it would not be recognized over USB, meaning I often could not use it wired if the battery was empty. All in all, the sacrifices were too much and I ultimately went for the Xbox One S controller and have not looked back since.
yasamoka wrote
jibbo wroteHave been thinking of getting a controller for my PC, just for a little change from the keyboard/mouse.

What do you think about this Xbox 360 Wireless Controller ?
https://macrotronics.net/product_info.php/microsoft-xbox-360-wireless-controller-for-pc-p-13490
That's too expensive for what is a last generation product.

They had the Xbox One controller almost at the same price, even a bit cheaper. I believe it was the Xbox One S controller too, with Bluetooth support (no wireless adapter needed). You can pick up a Bluetooth dongle for ~$10 from several places.

Macrotronics are currently not listing the Xbox One S controller, so you might want to shop around a bit. A recommended accessory is the Play & Charge kit, although it might be tough to find it here. You might need to get it from abroad.

An alternative is the DualShock 4 controller. It might be a preferred design to you, based on the size of your hands and how you handle a controller. However, the DS4 is of lower build quality than the Xbox One controllers, particularly apparent with the trigger buttons (LT / RT in Xbox controllers, L2 / R2 in DS controllers), and has no native XInput support, meaning you would need to use DS4Windows or any similar tool in order to make the controller appear to Windows as if it is an Xbox controller that can now be used in most modern games that often either support XInput exclusively or most maturely (e.g. no rumble over DirectInput). This has the disadvantage of showing you button prompts for the Xbox controllers instead in games, meaning you would have to match in your head what they mean on your own DS4 controller (becomes easier over time, but can still be annoying). Some games support the DS4 natively, like Rise of the Tomb Raider, which means full rumble support as well as pristine button prompts. Most games, however, do not do so and you are therefore left in the cold regarding those button prompts, unless there is a mod available for that / you make one. You'd also have to turn off that guzzling LED at the back using DS4Windows otherwise your battery life would be abysmal. My own DS4 controller also had issues where it would not be recognized over USB, meaning I often could not use it wired if the battery was empty. All in all, the sacrifices were too much and I ultimately went for the Xbox One S controller and have not looked back since.
Thanks for the detailed response, I think i like the Xbox controller more than the DualShock, but i wasn't aware there was One S controller until you brought it up, so i will probably look for that instead of getting the older 360 one.
I'm currently using my ps3 controllers flawlessly. You only need a usb Bluetooth dongle v4 costs 2.7$ on aliexpress and a driver (forgot its name- xbox emulator).
elserge82 wroteI'm currently using my ps3 controllers flawlessly. You only need a usb Bluetooth dongle v4 costs 2.7$ on aliexpress and a driver (forgot its name- xbox emulator).
You don't need Bluetooth 4.0 for Dualshock 3 controllers, only 2.0.
SCP toolkit is the name of the driver. And bluetooth 2.0 doesn't work in my experience, you need 4.0. Might be hardware specific tho
RandomMemory wroteSCP toolkit is the name of the driver. And bluetooth 2.0 doesn't work in my experience, you need 4.0. Might be hardware specific tho
Bluetooth 2.0 always worked for me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DualShock

Even the DualShock 4 uses Bluetooth 2.1 only.
RandomMemory wroteSCP toolkit is the name of the driver. And bluetooth 2.0 doesn't work in my experience, you need 4.0. Might be hardware specific tho
You're the man:), SCP it is, as I already mentioned, V4 is working just fine with me.I haven't tested the v2.
Yasamoka I would suggest the v4 for a longer range.
elserge82 wrote
RandomMemory wroteSCP toolkit is the name of the driver. And bluetooth 2.0 doesn't work in my experience, you need 4.0. Might be hardware specific tho
You're the man:), SCP it is, as I already mentioned, V4 is working just fine with me.I haven't tested the v2.
Yasamoka I would suggest the v4 for a longer range.
I'm not recommending one buy a Bluetooth 2.0 module. All I'm saying is that 2.0 works fine for DualShock 3 controllers, in the case that someone already has a Bluetooth 2.0 module (USB dongle, built-in on desktop motherboard, or built-in on laptop) or cannot find anything newer than 2.0.

I'm currently using a Bluetooth 4.0 USB dongle with my Xbox One S controller.
yasamoka wrote
elserge82 wrote
RandomMemory wroteSCP toolkit is the name of the driver. And bluetooth 2.0 doesn't work in my experience, you need 4.0. Might be hardware specific tho
You're the man:), SCP it is, as I already mentioned, V4 is working just fine with me.I haven't tested the v2.
Yasamoka I would suggest the v4 for a longer range.
I'm not recommending one buy a Bluetooth 2.0 module. All I'm saying is that 2.0 works fine for DualShock 3 controllers, in the case that someone already has a Bluetooth 2.0 module (USB dongle, built-in on desktop motherboard, or built-in on laptop) or cannot find anything newer than 2.0.

I'm currently using a Bluetooth 4.0 USB dongle with my Xbox One S controller.
Yeah I have noticed and thank you for the info.

Does anyone know where I can buy this cheap dongle other than aliexpress and pcandparts ( it will cost me 15 000 LL instead of 3 $) ? I am a littlebit in a hurry this time I need to use it as Bluetooth connectivity with my keyboard touch pad and my headphones.
I tried a PS 4 Controller + A Cheap Bluetooth Dongle + DS4 for mapping vs MS Xbox One Controller + its Official MS Dongle for Windows 10.

I have both setups now , I will definitely go with MS controller for two resasons:

Plug & Play - No third party software and compatibility issues in games here and there

Much more reliable receiver - No sudden signal loss , interruption.
Tech Guru wroteI tried a PS 4 Controller + A Cheap Bluetooth Dongle + DS4 for mapping vs MS Xbox One Controller + its Official MS Dongle for Windows 10.

I have both setups now , I will definitely go with MS controller for two resasons:

Plug & Play - No third party software and compatibility issues in games here and there

Much more reliable receiver - No sudden signal loss , interruption.
Just to reiterate for someone buying now, the newer Xbox One S controller can connect via either the official Microsoft wireless receiver or a Bluetooth dongle. Not sure about the difference in range and performance between the two receivers, but nevertheless this opens up the opportunity for the controller to be used with, say, a laptop without additional receivers, provided the Bluetooth stack on the laptop is stable and does not introduce latency issues or disconnects. Some Bluetooth solutions can be a bit iffy.
So It's not enough to get the controller alone, i need to get a receiver as well ?
also, any stores that sells the controller ?
jibbo wroteSo It's not enough to get the controller alone, i need to get a receiver as well ?
also, any stores that sells the controller ?
No, these controllers are both wired and wireless:
- DualShock 3
- DualShock 4
- Xbox One
- Xbox One S

The Xbox 360 Wired is wired only.

The Xbox 360 wireless controller is wireless only and requires a compatible Microsoft wireless receiver.
Just bring any joystick ps3 Ps4 Xbox 360 or Wtv and use it wired on your pc.
Theres a program that does everything for you it's called motionjoy.