GTX1060 Discussion Thread

It's a damn good card, the RX 480 is better for the money (in terms of FPS per $)(especially the 4GB version of the 480), but it's not available in Lebanon, that's why I'm getting the 1060 Amp! myself. It has its problems though, it doesn't have a backplate and it's just a dual-fan cooler slapped on a Founder's Edition board, so it only has a 6-pin which makes it worse at overclocking than a ROG STRIX or Gaming X, which is very weird considering Zotac put 2 8-pins on their 1070's and 1080's instead of the stock single 8-pin, even though the 1060 Amp! Is of the same series as those cards it didn't get shit, I mean it's understandable with the Mini, but with the damn Amp! ?! You fucked up, Zotac. It's also very barebones in terms of packaging, coming with no extra goodies which should be available on a nearly $300 card.

Don't give in to the dark side... jokes.

I have nothing against nvidia but their entire founder edition tax. increasing GPU prices like that. 1080 while a great card. its not worth $800.
Makes you wonder how much is the 1080ti going to cost.
However i have a problem with Paxwell. Pascal is just a stopgap architecture. its maxwell on 16nm finfet, hance the high clocks, and poor DX12, Vulkan and Async performance.
Volta is coming out next year and it will have new uArch. hopefully with proper DX12, Vulkan and Async support.

haidcar wroteDon't give in to the dark side... jokes.

I have nothing against nvidia but their entire founder edition tax. increasing GPU prices like that. 1080 while a great card. its not worth $800.
Makes you wonder how much is the 1080ti going to cost.
However i have a problem with Paxwell. Pascal is just a stopgap architecture. its maxwell on 16nm finfet, hance the high clocks, and poor DX12, Vulkan and Async performance.
Volta is coming out next year and it will have new uArch. hopefully with proper DX12, Vulkan and Async support.

haidcar you are 100% right on,with the bashing on Nvidia.The problem is the DX12 and Vulcan performance are now showing a huge difference in games like DOOM using Vulcan the RX 480 got 20 fps more,until more titles are released implementing DX12/Vulcan people will not realize what Nvidia has done.

Btw the titan X is out it is 1200$ :P now that is a joke for a card that is not even 2 times the performance of the 1080 at most 25% improvement with not a fully unlocked GPU.

The RX 480 is a great card even at 8 GB it has better future proofing than the 4 GB model and what burns me is the 6 GB on the 1060,and in the long run the RX 480 will be better.

My advice is to wait for the market to mature and prices settle and the MSI, EVGA, and Gigabyte to roll out their 1060s if you are not in a hurry,I don't like to be limited with my options but overall it is a good card with a small factor in mind,and you must know you can't push it to its limit because of the fans it will thermal throttle a lot.

haidcar wroteDon't give in to the dark side... jokes.

I have nothing against nvidia but their entire founder edition tax. increasing GPU prices like that. 1080 while a great card. its not worth $800.
Makes you wonder how much is the 1080ti going to cost.
However i have a problem with Paxwell. Pascal is just a stopgap architecture. its maxwell on 16nm finfet, hance the high clocks, and poor DX12, Vulkan and Async performance.
Volta is coming out next year and it will have new uArch. hopefully with proper DX12, Vulkan and Async support.

Not giving in, man. But the RX 480 isn't available here, and I'm building next week and don't want to bother with shipping from outside tbh. RTG have times and times again said Vega is not until Q1/Q2 2017, so I'm going with a 1060 now, and going back to the Red Team in the summer. I have the money for the 1070, but I just don't want to give more money to NoVideo ;)

It is funny by the above comments how AMD "fanboys" gathered and started bashing Nvidia and ironically some will go with a 1060 and self consciously that are aware the capabilities of the 1060 Pascal chip and they read many reviews and acted like "nigh/day shift night tech diggers" to pulled the trigger for the purchase :).

GTX 1060 vs RX 480 DirectX 12 & Vulkan Testing
Joker Productions


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uoanTrMenI


What a hypocrite world we are living at ! :)

First of all, I give that English a perfect score of 5/7.

Since when giving advise is bashing? why invest in tech that does not have any future proofing. 300-400$ is no small amount of many. not everyone have the luxury of upgrading their GPUs whenever Lord all mighty Jen-Hsun drops on the stage with black $1200 graphics card That will be only be out matched by next years mid range GPUs.
when you make an investment, of large sum of money, you can be either a tool, and buy in to the marketing, or make an educated buying decision.

oh btw the video, yea I LOLed. For a sec I almost believed that Pascal has proper DX12 and Vulkan support, what's next Pascal has Async compute? lols

http://wccftech.com/rx-480-gtx-1060-dx12-vulkan-tested

Wake up son



Technically Numbers Talk :

Doom (Direct X 12) - AMD
Hitman (Direct X 12)- AMD
Tomb Raider(Direct X 12) - Nvidia
Froza Motor Sports 6 Apex (Direct X 12 ) - Nvidia
Total War: Warhammer (Direct X 12) - Nvidia
3D Mark Time Spy (Nvidia)
Ashes Of the Singularity (AMD)

Your comments are very subjective & Pascal has showed a very good improvement compared to the mediocre performance of Maxwell in Asynchronous compute / Direct X 12 that eliminated the "competitive" advantage that "hawaii" of the r9 390/390x etc .. had, now came the new Polaris with a new 14nm FinFET vs Pascal , the jump of to Polaris compared to Hawaii in Direct X 12 performance is lackluster improvement when compared to Maxwell vs Pascal. Your above blind bashing , eliminated that as if Pascal is like Maxwell is struggling Asynchronous Compute / Direct X 12. Volta vs Vega will witness a similar trend , some Direct X 12 games will favor AMD and some will Favor Nvidia , similar to Direct x 11 scenarios (which currently Pascal has the step ahead in performance) and current Direct X 12 situation.

Maxwell is Pascal on 16nm Finfet. I like to call it Paswell.

and warhammer preforms better on high res on the RX480 rather than on 1060.
oh and Froza, 1060 is 1fps better on average, Totally worth the price the extra $100. when a gamer wants compromised performance, I'm glad Nvidia got their back with 2-3fps more for $100 more. thanks Nvidia

Nvidia implements software based Async support on their Graphics cards, utlizing the CPU to do some of the lifiting. Just like the old days of physics, when Nvidia had hardware physics accleration, and AMD reliad on software based CPU computation for physics.
The image shows how in games Nvidia does better on DX11 than DX12, cuz you know, "Technically Numbers Talk" lol

Laters dude, gtg buy my titan XP

I dont think that the community is ready for 4k gaming(unless you want to waist all your money, which is already happening slowly), i would stick to 1080p for now, and maybe 2k if your willing to.
Dear santa, i wish for a couple of titan x novideo gpu and a couple of 4k monitors as a gift for being a good boy, you can also get me an i7 extreme as a personal gift, ill leave some cockies in the fridge.

Tech Guru wroteIt is funny by the above comments how AMD "fanboys" gathered and started bashing Nvidia and ironically some will go with a 1060 and self consciously that are aware the capabilities of the 1060 Pascal chip and they read many reviews and acted like "nigh/day shift night tech diggers" to pulled the trigger for the purchase :).

Look it's everybody's favorite not-a-fanboy-at-all!

I'm only going for the 1060 because the 480 isn't available here... the 480 already more or less matches the 1060, give it a few months and it will outmatch the 1060, and you know it.

Tech Guru wroteIt is funny by the above comments how AMD "fanboys" gathered and started bashing Nvidia and ironically some will go with a 1060 and self consciously that are aware the capabilities of the 1060 Pascal chip and they read many reviews and acted like "nigh/day shift night tech diggers" to pulled the trigger for the purchase :).

GTX 1060 vs RX 480 DirectX 12 & Vulkan Testing
Joker Productions


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uoanTrMenI


What a hypocrite world we are living at ! :)

We aren't fanboys if we are giving criticism when it is deserved. I do not want AMD to prevail against Nvidia and vice versa, it is our duty as a community to give them shit when it is supposed to be given to make them do better.

I respect you Tech Guru and please respect others,btw you are the fanboy,Die_kapitan is getting a 1060 lol!!! and my advice was to wait for after market 1060 cards from different manufacturers,so please read and understand before saying..

Look at what we have now in terms of the lineup from both companies , nobody in their wildest dreams have thought of how much an improvement these cards will bring,all because of the community and the competition between the companies.

Now we can't say a clear winner between the 1060 and 480 the market is not mature enough with after market card for the 480 are few only time will tell,but it is known that the 1060 packs more performance for now but for how long is the question,and are you willing to put at least 60-100$ for the 1060 it is up to you.

an i3 is always a bottleneck. dont go with a dual core, quad cores are a must nowadays, current gen i5 is good choice, i7 is does not yield significantly better performance overall.

haidcar wrotean i3 is always a bottleneck. dont go with a dual core, quad cores are a must nowadays, current gen i5 is good choice, i7 is does not yield significantly better performance overall.

It's the 6th generation of i3 with 3.7Ghz.
It has turbo boost and 4 threads.
It is not your everyday i3 in terms of performance, only in terms of cost.
It rivals the 2.70 GHz - i5-6400 and also beats it. (Check CPUBOSS.COM)
I need to chose between the following four, and for few % of added performance I won't double or triple the cost.
Skylake 3.70 GHz - i3-6100 3M/LGA1151 $116.00
Skylake 2.70 GHz - i5-6400 6M/LGA1151 $178.00
Skylake 3.30 GHz - i5-6600 6M/LGA1151 $219.00
Skylake 3.40 GHz - i7-6700 8M/LGA1151 $301.00
I want to emphasize on that this is a budget build, so do you think that THIS i3 is good enough or I need to chip in another 100$ (and I'm really short on money).

if this is a budget build than the i3 will do. most games don't truly utilize multicore, some are starting to. DX12, and Vulkan both better utilize multiple cores to better keep the GPU fed.

oh by the way, the 1060 does not run all games 1080p 60fps+ and it will sure not do so with future games.

What suggest going, with an AMD RX480 or RX470, you probably save up $100+ that can go into your CPU.
GPUs are easy to upgrade down the line, but upgrading CPU is like getting a new system. i5 Skylake will future proof your system for the next 3-4 years.

haidcar wroteif this is a budget build than the i3 will do. most games don't truly utilize multicore, some are starting to. DX12, and Vulkan both better utilize multiple cores to better keep the GPU fed.

oh by the way, the 1060 does not run all games 1080p 60fps+ and it will sure not do so with future games.

What suggest going, with an AMD RX480 or RX470, you probably save up $100+ that can go into your CPU.
GPUs are easy to upgrade down the line, but upgrading CPU is like getting a new system. i5 Skylake will future proof your system for the next 3-4 years.

Thanks for the tips,
I think I will weigh two builds. A cheap one for 650$ with an i3. or a future proof more expensive one with upgradable motherboard, i5 6600 and instead of the 1060 I'll buy the AMD RX480 waiting for crossfire upgrade later.
But do you know a place that sells AMD GPUs?

imanmatar wrote

haidcar wroteif this is a budget build than the i3 will do. most games don't truly utilize multicore, some are starting to. DX12, and Vulkan both better utilize multiple cores to better keep the GPU fed.

oh by the way, the 1060 does not run all games 1080p 60fps+ and it will sure not do so with future games.

What suggest going, with an AMD RX480 or RX470, you probably save up $100+ that can go into your CPU.
GPUs are easy to upgrade down the line, but upgrading CPU is like getting a new system. i5 Skylake will future proof your system for the next 3-4 years.

Thanks for the tips,
I think I will weigh two builds. A cheap one for 650$ with an i3. or a future proof more expensive one with upgradable motherboard, i5 6600 and instead of the 1060 I'll buy the AMD RX480 waiting for crossfire upgrade later.
But do you know a place that sells AMD GPUs?

Go with at least an I5 , i3 will yes bottleneck the gpu on the long run. Even an i7 to me is more future proof as more modern AAA titles start to utilize multi-cores & HT.

"I’d say for the vast majority of gamers, the sweet spot lies somewhere between a quad-core with Hyper-Threading and a six-core on the Intel side of the aisle. A Skylake Core i5-6600K will be fine for DirectX 11 games and probably the vast majority of the early DirectX 12 games, but the lack of Hyper-Threading will eventually hurt."


http://www.pcworld.com/article/3039552/hardware/tested-how-many-cpu-cores-you-really-need-for-directx-12-gaming.html

Current performance is something & future proofness is somethig else.

As for 1080@60fps ultra with AA

1060/rx 480 will not handle that in the future as more games are becoming very relatistic vs more gpu power is needed to deliver this image fidelity.

Example (Some Current AAA Titles)

Quantum Break (Native Dirext X 12 , Ultra No Upscaling -Native 1080p ) Boom 1070 , 1080 , Fury X not tipping above 55fps at max with dips to 40 -Awesome Graphics , Similar Story Assassin Creed Syndicate (Maxed at 1080p ,direct x 11 Title) .. Look at the upcoming Mafia 3 , Deus Ex: Mankind Divided , Watch Dogs 2 , Battlefield One , Escape from Tarkov ... All soon releases.