Bullshit HTC design! I've had enough of their stupid designs! Look at that huge chin/bezel on top and below of the phone! They could either fit front facing speakers or use hardware buttons to get more screen estate!
I really would kill their Head of Design department if I meet him! Mistake after mistake... no wonder the company is dying!
Pixel phones have a premium price tag. The original concept of the Nexus phone was an affordable high-end device from which they shifted last year. If they want to stick to such prices, atleast add more features to match competitors.
LifeEngineer wroteBullshit HTC design! I've had enough of their stupid designs! Look at that huge chin/bezel on top and below of the phone! They could either fit front facing speakers or use hardware buttons to get more screen estate!
I really would kill their Head of Design department if I meet him! Mistake after mistake... no wonder the company is dying!
Actually HTC had a great Q3 this year, I doubt they'll die anytime soon... I think the 10 looks good!
Salloum wrote Actually HTC had a great Q3 this year, I doubt they'll die anytime soon... I think the 10 looks good!
Early reports say they did good actually because of the Pixel phones! After all they are selling services/phones/manufacturing to Google! The HTC 10 sold very little! Don't get me wrong, I find the HTC 10 the best phone they've made in years and it's even on my radar!
Salloum wrote
LifeEngineer wroteBullshit HTC design! I've had enough of their stupid designs! Look at that huge chin/bezel on top and below of the phone! They could either fit front facing speakers or use hardware buttons to get more screen estate!
I really would kill their Head of Design department if I meet him! Mistake after mistake... no wonder the company is dying!
Actually HTC had a great Q3 this year, I doubt they'll die anytime soon... I think the 10 looks good!
I agree!
With the Note 7 fiasco and the more and more boring IOS (that didn't change for years), HTC is doing a good coming back, people who want a stable,solid and classy phone will get a 10 or a Pixel.
BTW the Pixel design is chosen by Google not HTC, the materials are made by HTC though, another thing I personally don't like in Pixel is the missing SD slot, dunno why Google is still not seeing that people want SD slot, they are blind, specially with the big +3GB per file VR movies and games...
Yes Samsung Lost approximately 17 Billion USD from the Note 7 scandal , the S8 will pop out in retails @ March 2017 - they shrink the release date to compensate. Customer loyalty for big names/brand will not jeopardize the base , any company may encounter mass release problems and lessons to be traced deep from the mass wounds of profit lose. Google Pixel specs are not mind blowing with a full HD Screen and no Micro SD Slot , they included the SnapDragon 821 vs 820 which is considered the same core but an OC variant. I consider year the most fully fledged updated phones , compared to last generation, are the Galaxy S7 / S7 Edge and I Phone 7 / 7 Plus - Innovative Fast Auto focus from Samsung and a Wide Color Gamut Display / new A10 unified chip from Apple.
vegetaleb wrote

boring IOS (that didn't change for years)
iOS 10 brings a lot of new features and a great widget pane. It's really great honestly.
Salloum wrote
vegetaleb wrote

boring IOS (that didn't change for years)
iOS 10 brings a lot of new features and a great widget pane. It's really great honestly.
Still boring as hell, they always say new features but it's just some apps nothing like custom roms or mods
+ they took away 3.5mm for earphones which is a tremendous shame, nearly as bad as the note 7 burning shame
vegetaleb wrote
Salloum wrote
vegetaleb wrote

boring IOS (that didn't change for years)
iOS 10 brings a lot of new features and a great widget pane. It's really great honestly.
Still boring as hell, they always say new features but it's just some apps nothing like custom roms or mods
+ they took away 3.5mm for earphones which is a tremendous shame, nearly as bad as the note 7 burning shame
even worse. i'd rather lose a limb burning down while inhaling toxic fumes as I die a painful death, than lose an aging old port.

im still using my 5.25in floppy drive, my computer is hooked to 56k modem. my next phone must have wired slim port ethernet jack wifi so unreliable, you keep on losing signal and interference. it just yuck!

2 years later, every phone maker ditched the 3.5 jack completely -_-
haidcar wrote
vegetaleb wrote
Salloum wrote iOS 10 brings a lot of new features and a great widget pane. It's really great honestly.
Still boring as hell, they always say new features but it's just some apps nothing like custom roms or mods
+ they took away 3.5mm for earphones which is a tremendous shame, nearly as bad as the note 7 burning shame
even worse. i'd rather lose a limb burning down while inhaling toxic fumes as I die a painful death, than lose an aging old port.

im still using my 5.25in floppy drive, my computer is hooked to 56k modem. my next phone must have wired slim port ethernet jack wifi so unreliable, you keep on losing signal and interference. it just yuck!

2 years later, every phone maker ditched the 3.5 jack completely -_-
Apple 1st removed the dvd drive from their laptops, now most manufacturers are releasing laptops without dvd drives, most case manufacturers are removing them too.

Apple is a leading company, their phones are a vision for the future rather than a phone to meet the need of the present consumer.
Do you think removing the dvd drives was a good thing to notebooks:)??
I guess you should stick with apple coz someday they might remove all tech and i'm sure you will be more happy:D
elserge82 wroteDo you think removing the dvd drives was a good thing to notebooks:)??
I guess you should stick with apple coz someday they might remove all tech and i'm sure you will be more happy:D
Of course it was, laptops are thinner and smaller and more portable because of it. Disc drives are dying removable media, too big for today's standard. Apple also got rid of the floppy drive. I'm not saying removing the 3.5mm jack was good, it's actually really smart of them (people will go for AirPods (159$ more!) or Lightning earphones (which manufacturers will pay Apple to license!)). But I do think analog technology is outdated and it's actually funny to have an analog port on a device as advanced as a smartphone. I have the 7 Plus and I don't miss the headphone jack. I have the adapter plugged into my earphones and I just forgot about it. The only issue I faced, the other day I forgot to charge my phone at night and couldn't listen to music and charge my phone at the same time at work. It was annoying sure but not the end of the world...
Salloum wrote
elserge82 wroteDo you think removing the dvd drives was a good thing to notebooks:)??
I guess you should stick with apple coz someday they might remove all tech and i'm sure you will be more happy:D
Of course it was, laptops are thinner and smaller and more portable because of it. Disc drives are dying removable media, too big for today's standard. Apple also got rid of the floppy drive. I'm not saying removing the 3.5mm jack was good, it's actually really smart of them (people will go for AirPods (159$ more!) or Lightning earphones (which manufacturers will pay Apple to license!)). But I do think analog technology is outdated and it's actually funny to have an analog port on a device as advanced as a smartphone. I have the 7 Plus and I don't miss the headphone jack. I have the adapter plugged into my earphones and I just forgot about it. The only issue I faced, the other day I forgot to charge my phone at night and couldn't listen to music and charge my phone at the same time at work. It was annoying sure but not the end of the world...
Agreed 100%
Dear God! people are really isheep
Whatever apple do they are right
3.5mm an aging port huh? Because apple decided it's old, but guess what, IR remote controls are old, LCDs are old, your car engine petrol engine is an old tech, Skis and snowboards are old tech, condoms are old tech, your bed is a very old tech, you are still using them everyday!! But yes apple didn't decide to replace them yet.
I dare you prove me that an iphone 7 earphones sound better than a good pair of earphones with 3.5mm.
They will all do like apple? Nop! Look at the SD card slot, they said it's an old tech too, but HTC and Samsung brought it back because people actually NEED it. All that want apple is to oblige you to pay more $$$ on their accessories.
Another thing showing your ignorance in this domain, ALL Professionals are using 3.5mm, if it was an obsolete port they would cry like babies to change it
vegetaleb wroteDear God! people are really isheep
Whatever apple do they are right
3.5mm an aging port huh? Because apple decided it's old, but guess what, IR remote controls are old, LCDs are old, your car engine petrol engine is an old tech, Skis and snowboards are old tech, condoms are old tech, your bed is a very old tech, you are still using them everyday!! But yes apple didn't decide to replace them yet.
I dare you prove me that an iphone 7 earphones sound better than a good pair of earphones with 3.5mm.
They will all do like apple? Nop! Look at the SD card slot, they said it's an old tech too, but HTC and Samsung brought it back because people actually NEED it. All that want apple is to oblige you to pay more $$$ on their accessories.
Another thing showing your ignorance in this domain, ALL Professionals are using 3.5mm, if it was an obsolete port they would cry like babies to change it
You know, I started answering you, but in the short time I've been on this forum I realized you're just a stubborn person, with very little knowledge about anything honestly, that like to talk and talk and talk like they're know-it-alls... Like a lot of Lebanese people. So I'll pass. Be sure to hit the Report button on your way out.
Salloum wrote
vegetaleb wroteDear God! people are really isheep
Whatever apple do they are right
3.5mm an aging port huh? Because apple decided it's old, but guess what, IR remote controls are old, LCDs are old, your car engine petrol engine is an old tech, Skis and snowboards are old tech, condoms are old tech, your bed is a very old tech, you are still using them everyday!! But yes apple didn't decide to replace them yet.
I dare you prove me that an iphone 7 earphones sound better than a good pair of earphones with 3.5mm.
They will all do like apple? Nop! Look at the SD card slot, they said it's an old tech too, but HTC and Samsung brought it back because people actually NEED it. All that want apple is to oblige you to pay more $$$ on their accessories.
Another thing showing your ignorance in this domain, ALL Professionals are using 3.5mm, if it was an obsolete port they would cry like babies to change it
You know, I started answering you, but in the short time I've been on this forum I realized you're just a stubborn person, with very little knowledge about anything honestly, that like to talk and talk and talk like they're know-it-alls... Like a lot of Lebanese people. So I'll pass. Be sure to hit the Report button on your way out.
BTW I was not answering you but haidcar, don't know why you felt targeted, he mocked my answer about 3.5mm with non-scientific, biased claims while my answer is an answer anyone will give you at HeadFi forum which is the audiophile forum.
If the next flagship from HTC won't have 3.5mm I will definitely not buy it, I will rather get a Sony Xperia instead, because yes I am not a sheep like 99% of Lebanese
vegetaleb wrote
If the next flagship from HTC won't have 3.5mm I will definitely not buy it, I will rather get a Sony Xperia instead, because yes I am not a sheep like 99% of Lebanese
that's a credible unbiased number you got there
Salloum wrote
elserge82 wroteDo you think removing the dvd drives was a good thing to notebooks:)??
I guess you should stick with apple coz someday they might remove all tech and i'm sure you will be more happy:D
Of course it was, laptops are thinner and smaller and more portable because of it. Disc drives are dying removable media, too big for today's standard. Apple also got rid of the floppy drive. I'm not saying removing the 3.5mm jack was good, it's actually really smart of them (people will go for AirPods (159$ more!) or Lightning earphones (which manufacturers will pay Apple to license!)). But I do think analog technology is outdated and it's actually funny to have an analog port on a device as advanced as a smartphone. I have the 7 Plus and I don't miss the headphone jack. I have the adapter plugged into my earphones and I just forgot about it. The only issue I faced, the other day I forgot to charge my phone at night and couldn't listen to music and charge my phone at the same time at work. It was annoying sure but not the end of the world...
If we are talking about a thin notebook there are always better solutions or cheap ones. A better solution is to integrate a pioneer style Reader that doesn't need lots of room( i'm sure you've seen it in you car). But for sure apple would prefer forcing you to buy and additional item ( external one) . It will improve their figures (Money wise).
I hate when ppl compromise the practical solution in favor of image or prestige. Good luck apple ppl.

Tech should be improved and not removed (ex : floppy -> CD -> DVD-> bluerays)
for Apple ( DVD -> ....) is the ultimate solution:D selling nothing:P with higher price.
And please don't tell me that you can replace a disc with a usb drive cause it's not true media industries don't sell usbs;)
Amhaz is still waiting to get his Note 7 shipment.
He's claimimg not all Note 7 have problems and he will be selling the phone soon. Apparently he already sold many phones and no one complained yet.
Check out his Facebook page: Amhaz Original.