it melts at 91 degrees and ruin your Motherboard and Cables :P oh, and your 200$ ^.^
Ngel wroteit melts at 91 degrees and ruin your Motherboard and Cables oh, and your 200$ ^.^
no bias, m8.

For real though, it doesn't get anywhere near 91 degrees, you can very easily undervolt it to draw less from the PCIe, and a driver fix from AMD is coming next week, plus any half-decent motherboard on the market (so practically all but the lowest of low-end mobos) can output more than 75W via PCIe.
Ngel wroteit melts at 91 degrees and ruin your Motherboard and Cables oh, and your 200$ ^.^
when it is not overclocked there is no issues, and the blower cooler can reach 5000rpm but it will be so noisy, in all reviews it managed to keep the card at 80C when spinning at 50%
anayman_k7 wrote
Ngel wroteit melts at 91 degrees and ruin your Motherboard and Cables oh, and your 200$ ^.^
when it is not overclocked there is no issues, and the blower cooler can reach 5000rpm but it will be so noisy, in all reviews it managed to keep the card at 80C when spinning at 50%
I think he was being sarcastic.
it's funny that some people are hating on the RX480.

First thing first, it's $200 card, as much as GTX 960 now going for.

relative performance is better than GTX 970.

Card is geared toward mainstream consumer, those who don't want to spend more 200-250 on a GPU. This card will run games 1080p MAXed settings and will average 60 FPS in the latest games.

This is NOT the Flagship AMD card that's coming up later this year, Vega will come out to compete vs 1080, 1080ti, Titans.

Last but not least chat speaks for itself.

haidcar wroteit's funny that some people are hating on the RX480.

First thing first, it's $200 card, as much as GTX 960 now going for.

relative performance is better than GTX 970.

Card is geared toward mainstream consumer, those who don't want to spend more 200-250 on a GPU. This card will run games 1080p MAXed settings and will average 60 FPS in the latest games.

This is NOT the Flagship AMD card that's coming up later this year, Vega will come out to compete vs 1080, 1080ti, Titans.

Last but not least chat speaks for itself.

http://i.imgur.com/YzsWsxU.png?1
Still a 2 years old 970 Maxwell with a 3.5 GB + 0.5 GB Vram issue is relatively slower by 5%. Where is the place of such card , r9 390 , 390x , 970 , 980 even r9 380x or 960 OC will not be tempted to upgrade. It is good for what it is nothing more & I suspect It will make @ 250 USD in the MENA Region.
Don't forget how much potential is in it, that'll be unleashed as the drivers mature, add to that that Nvidia will stop optimizing for Maxwell, it'll match the 980 in some time. Also, it's not even meant to compete with the GTX 1070 some people are comparing it with, it competes with the yet to be announced GTX 1060.
Let it be said first, the amd rx 480 is a good deal bang/buck, but why are some people defending it more than the company itself did. AMD at the unveil pit the crossfire 480 against a 1080 and claimed it was faster, so saying this is a mid range card now is just backing down the claim of AMD, they had it against the high end card even if in crossfire, that is how they chose to show and decided their customer range as the high end card users claiming it is faster for far less price.
And the hate is not towards the 480, it is towards AMD as a whole, not first time they do so, and they always fail to polish the drivers to the extent of really showing of the performance of the card. yes they solved some issues, but let us be objective their drivers still lack in more than one area.
As a rating the 480 as the graph shows is about 5% faster than a 970 which is good, but by that the 1060 should also be faster than 970 and not by only 5%, as the graph shows, the 970 is faster than 780ti, i think the 1060 would be close to 980ti.
alk wroteLet it be said first, the amd rx 480 is a good deal bang/buck, but why are some people defending it more than the company itself did. AMD at the unveil pit the crossfire 480 against a 1080 and claimed it was faster, so saying this is a mid range card now is just backing down the claim of AMD, they had it against the high end card even if in crossfire, that is how they chose to show and decided their customer range as the high end card users claiming it is faster for far less price.
And the hate is not towards the 480, it is towards AMD as a whole, not first time they do so, and they always fail to polish the drivers to the extent of really showing of the performance of the card. yes they solved some issues, but let us be objective their drivers still lack in more than one area.
As a rating the 480 as the graph shows is about 5% faster than a 970 which is good, but by that the 1060 should also be faster than 970 and not by only 5%, as the graph shows, the 970 is faster than 780ti, i think the 1060 would be close to 980ti.
Defending it? We're just stating facts, it's the best card for its price, the "problem" it has would only affect old low-end motherboards, it's getting fixed with a driver next week and you can easily fix it yourself by undervolting the card at no loss in performance, same thing happened with the GTX 960 STRIX, OCed GTX 750 Ti's and GTX 950's with no PCIe power connectors, but they didn't get the same response as AMD is getting even though the problem was even worse.

RTG used AotS, a full feature DX12 game, in which CF and SLI scale much better than DX11 games.

They always fail with drivers at launch, but on the long-run their drivers are much better than Nvidia's as they keep increasing performance, and their drivers are getting better and are being released more often since the split. It's not like Nvidia are any better in the drivers front especially in the last while.

First of all GTX 970 is an x70 series card while the GTX 1060 is an x60 series card, so you're practically comparing apples to oranges here. Secondly, the 1070 is barely any faster than the 980 Ti, so no way in hell would Nvidia release a GTX 1060 that matches a 980 Ti, especially since the 1060 is rumored to have a severely cut-down GP104. Thirdly, if the last launch is anything to go by, the 1060 won't even match the 970 at launch, but may reach its performance after a while as Nvidia stops optimizing games for Maxwell *cough* or they release a driver that tanks the performance of Maxwell *cough*
Tech Guru wrote
haidcar wroteit's funny that some people are hating on the RX480.

First thing first, it's $200 card, as much as GTX 960 now going for.

relative performance is better than GTX 970.

Card is geared toward mainstream consumer, those who don't want to spend more 200-250 on a GPU. This card will run games 1080p MAXed settings and will average 60 FPS in the latest games.

This is NOT the Flagship AMD card that's coming up later this year, Vega will come out to compete vs 1080, 1080ti, Titans.

Last but not least chat speaks for itself.

http://i.imgur.com/YzsWsxU.png?1
Still a 2 years old 970 Maxwell with a 3.5 GB + 0.5 GB Vram issue is relatively slower by 5%. Where is the place of such card , r9 390 , 390x , 970 , 980 even r9 380x or 960 OC will not be tempted to upgrade. It is good for what it is nothing more & I suspect It will make @ 250 USD in the MENA Region.
i think you're looking at it wrong. I don't suspect a person with 970 or 390x to upgrade ( unless the 390x person wants to replace the space heater with something more efficient). A person still rocking a 280X (like me) or GTX 950, 960, 770,760... would be inclined to upgrade. believe it or not, people don't upgrade their GPUs whenever a new generation comes out.

Last year AMD released Fury GPUs, they were geared toward high end and enthusiast consumers. they compete with 980ti and titan. However enthusiast community is actually a minority, and to be fair no one in his right mind would spend $700 to $1000 on GPU that would be obelect and gets beaten by a mid ranger in a couple of years.

With Polaris they're targeting the the vast majority of PC gaming community. these people looking for the best perf/$, not looking to spend more than $300 on a GPU.

That's not to say AMD given up on the enthusiast community, i am waiting for their Vega, at the end of this year to compete in the high end 1080, 1080ti range.

alk wroteLet it be said first, the amd rx 480 is a good deal bang/buck, but why are some people defending it more than the company itself did. AMD at the unveil pit the crossfire 480 against a 1080 and claimed it was faster, so saying this is a mid range card now is just backing down the claim of AMD, they had it against the high end card even if in crossfire, that is how they chose to show and decided their customer range as the high end card users claiming it is faster for far less price.
And the hate is not towards the 480, it is towards AMD as a whole, not first time they do so, and they always fail to polish the drivers to the extent of really showing of the performance of the card. yes they solved some issues, but let us be objective their drivers still lack in more than one area.
As a rating the 480 as the graph shows is about 5% faster than a 970 which is good, but by that the 1060 should also be faster than 970 and not by only 5%, as the graph shows, the 970 is faster than 780ti, i think the 1060 would be close to 980ti.
when you show two cards that's 2X RX480 in CF, edging out a single 1080, that alone clearly shows they're not claiming that a single GPU would be anywhere equal or as fast. I think you got the wrong message here.
1060 would not be as fast 980ti, no matter what. The 980ti is as fast as the 1070, right now. 1060 would be in the 980-960 range, which is the same relative position as the RX 480.
You've posted the image, and as i said based on the image, i didnt create random numbers, i took data from the image you have posted ... Where the 1070 is 18% faster than the 980ti, If you don't think these are actual numbers why did you post the image?
I never said claiming the single gpu faster card, i said claiming it to be a high end competitor in crossfire, again the selling point was faster than 1080 with lower price? They marketed their product that way, and according to that marketing it failed to impress!
Nvidia and AMD both fueled the hype train starting with Nvidia at the GTX1080 launch, did anyone forget the 2x980 performance claim (turned out to be 63% better peformance), and the 65C of the GTX1080, it turned out that it throttles in frequency which would also affect the fps, and how about the word that Nvidia is not able to spell: MSRP, prices are up the roof on Amazon/Newegg for the GTX1080 in the 820$ range and the GTX1070 520$ range, both FE edition, for custom units the difference is 50$ (or more) which is crazy! Even the GTX1060 rumored to be priced at 300$ with only 15% better performance of the RX 480.

All these Nvidia claims that never met compared to 2 claim that are not met from AMD side which is GTX980 performance of the RX 480 which could happen with aftermarket RX 480 and driver update but this will not be more expensive than 200$ and the other claim which was a 150w TDP that turned out to be 165W
agh? wut? I draw your attention to the chat. GTX 1070 is 13% faster than GTX 1080ti. Chart is normalized at RX480.
GTX 1070 is about 50% faster than RX480.

no one advertised as an alternative competitor the to gtx 1080. AMD advertised the best Pref/Watt, Pref/$ cards at given price point. and they delivered on that promise.
During a demo, they pitted two RX480 in CF vs a single GTX 1080 in order to show how efficient and price competitive the card is. being two $200 midrange cards, being able to achieve GTX 1080 level performance in a DX12 game.

I think people misunderstood that.
alk wroteYou've posted the image, and as i said based on the image, i didnt create random numbers, i took data from the image you have posted ... Where the 1070 is 150% faster than the 980ti, If you don't think these are actual numbers why did you post the image?
I never said claiming the single gpu faster card, i said claiming it to be a high end competitor in crossfire, again the selling point was faster than 1080 with lower price? They marketed their product that way, and according to that marketing it failed to impress!
The 1070 is 150% faster than the 980 Ti?!

And they specifically used AoftS, a fully-enabled DX12 game that uses A-Sync compute and scales much better with multi-GPU setups than DX11 games, they didn't claim it's better than the 1080 in DX11.
Tech Guru wroteNVIDIA Unveils The GeForce GTX 1060 6 GB For $299 US – Features GP106 Core With 1280 Cores, 1.7 GHz Core and 8 GHz Memory Clock, 19th July Launch @USD $299

Read more: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-unleashed-249-usd/#ixzz4DjB7hcb1

Let Us See, if AMD RX 480 will fall lost in the green grasses , initial benchmarks are tipping to that , but let us give it time :)
Here I fixed it for you. FE FTW!
250$ lol, that's the best joke I ever heard, 300$ for FE and custom units will be priced for more, for 200$ the RX 480 will be a better deal
anayman_k7 wrotedid anyone forget the 2x980 performance claim (turned out to be 63% better peformance)
Their claim was that it outperformed two 980s in SLI, not two 980s at full scale so 63% sounds about right.