Baal
New User here. Joined to have this discussion about my ISP. I have 6Mbps, and was working on legal action against my ISP, since for the past year Youtube appeared to be throttled between 6:30 PM and 1nish AM(getting 140Kbps buffering every 5 sec at 240p). This bothered me a lot and after many calls, where they did the tests. Used the "Central" has problems. Tonight i decided to call them one last time before going legal. First thing i asked, do you use throttling on Youtube and Facebook. They said No (If yes not stated in the Terms of service). I told them are you sure. The guy insisted on the NO. I told him that i believe that my bandwith is throttled for a few websites. And that using VPN solves it and that torrenting will get me the 6Mbps, but since i would like not to pay for VPN i wanted to see it solved with them. Told him i refuse to do the |download files" test, waist of time. 2 minutes later. I am able to watch vids in 1080HD while, while facetiming (Quality Waaaaay Better), while other people are websurfing. Getting my sweet sweet 6Mbps. And i love it. Anyone had these kind of problems?
I do believe my ISP stacks people in Pools and only if they complain multiple times will they move them to a pool where they get what they payed for. I believe this to be illegal or should at least be illegal. I fear that rich neighberhoods get what they payed for while poor neighberhoods are being dubbed. I would like to investigate that. This is why i would like to initiate these tests. Around 8PM i would like you to open youtube whatever is your speed put it on a 360p vid and right click stats for nerds on chrome. And post the average of the Bandwith in kbps with the name of the "Central" with the name of the ISP/ plan/ Time/ Region and if you already complained for the ISP and it solved it. Ask friends and families to do the same. Provide what you can of this information. I promise if we find something worth pursuing i will take legal actions against ISPs that are involved.
Prince
Am not against what your doing but buddy you aren't pay for a dedicated bandwidth that is for you 24/7 as a 6 MBps that differs a lot .
Paying for a dedicated bandwidth is way much expensive then you are currently paying for , from what i know & hear from people who owns small ISP that getting bandwidth from Ogero isn't that easy as you think cause we don't have that much bandwidth in Lebanon that can cover all the Lebanese demand's .
haidcar
as much as i deeply hate the current ISPs, and their terrible service and worse support.
I think the problem is not the ISPs, but DSPs. MoT has monopoly on international bandwidth through the fiber optic submarine cables, that connect Lebanon with the rest of the world.
Ever since the last upgrade almost a year ago that lowered prices and increased data caps, things have been smooth to some extents.
After the upgrade things went south really fast, Privet ISPs did not receive the bandwidth they need at the same time they are forced to upgrade the speeds of their user.
Meanwhile at Ogero (MoT company), things went very smooth, they have all the bandwidth they require since they own it.
I am currently subscribed with IDM, been so since 2008 had absolutely 0 problems in terms of service reliability until July of 2014, after that my plan was changed to unlimited and got throttled to 128kbps, after switching to a limited plan, i still get slow service between 5pm-1am.
So to sum up, MoT wants to kill Privet ISPs and if you want to have legal action against anyone you should sue Satan (MoT & Ogero).
MrClass
The thing that bugs is that; fine we are not paying for dedicated internet, but what the hell am I paying for? There should be a minimum speed that has to be met. They only specify the "up to" speed, but not a "guaranteed speed". Eventually if you pay 50$ or 100$, you'll have the same throttling.
Please state if I'm wrong.
Prince
MrClass wroteThe thing that bugs is that; fine we are not paying for dedicated internet, but what the hell am I paying for? There should be a minimum speed that has to be met. They only specify the "up to" speed, but not a "guaranteed speed". Eventually if you pay 50$ or 100$, you'll have the same throttling.
Please state if I'm wrong.
That's part of the problem we are getting throttled with all mixed users having different speed limits that means if you got 8 MBps and other user got 2 MBps as there maximum speed and the throttling on YouTube is set 512 KBps that means the two of us are getting throttled on on 512 KBps which is totally unfair and the other issue i faced specially private ISP is there cache systems that never get purged on daily basis , most of "ISP" tends to calculate cached contents your demanding as bandwidth consumption.
DNA
even if you are on a shared line, when the bandwidth that you are giving to the customers is less than 4Mbps the ISP have no right to throttle your speed since it will greatly affect your internet experience.THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO GIVE YOU A BAD INTERNET
what is meant by being on a shared line shouldn't apply to low bandwidth users it is an ABUSED term here, basically it is used in developed countries where each user have in excess of 20Mbps, so since you are on a shared line ISP's can throttle your speed to like 10-15Mbps during peak times... but that doesn't affect your browsing or use in general while providing you uber speeds for low price..you got the point. Here both public and private sectors should be blamed if you are offering the users an average of 2Mbps that figure shouldn't be throttled at all i can't even believe that a country with 4M people have problems delivering 2Mbps consistently... a single google fiber 1Gbps subscription for 70$ can provide 500 2M lines, it is insanely easy to give super high speed internet in a small country like ours, knowing that huge percentage of the people haven't even heard about the internet (true story)..what prevents MOT from doubling the bandwidth through IMEWE?, what prevents them from starting tomorrow a plan to install remote DSLAMS in each area so we can get up to 24M on existing DSL and forget about the Fiber lies!.. they are all bunch of lairs, carrying medieval heads around, what do you expect from a country that the minister of telecom haven't even studied anything close to telecom, and same for all of them, it all comes down to being a third world country for a reason lol, nothing will get solved unless all the past generations that is full of medieval non sense seize to exist and new fresh modern, educated minds controls the country.
ironman
Yesterday a CSGO player asked his friends on facebook, if anyone can help him to configure his stream at 60fps because he had no experience with that.
one guy replied and said easy, all you need is 5Mbps upload speed (which you can get in the cheapest plan probably) and you can do it easily.
So i was like,,, yea, i'll stream maybe in 20 years
NAM
I know this is a bit out of the conversation but is load balancing still on the table ? i read on the forum on an old topic about this and seen a video on youtube about this .. this seems to "in short" combine bandwidths.
Can we install many internet plans on many lines to combine them ?!
If so i can get "4" 4mbps plans from idm for 19$ each to combine into a 16mbps down 2mbps upload !!!
haidcar
@NAM
We are off topic here.
What you are talking about is called load balancing, some routers offer this. Basically taking two WANs and combining them, but not all applications will take advantage of this.
Hybrid
Most of the ISPs clearly state that their connection is shared and is subject to Fair Usage Policy.
They will use this against you, your legal actions will fail and your money will be wasted.
And yes most ISPs have different zones, if you're a heavy user they will put you on the shitty zone. If you're a gamer they will put you on the nice low latency one..
Stygmata
even if the connection is shared you still need to check their contention rate to realize what is the minimum you should be getting at any hour