NuclearVision wroteCould you answer the main question? Whats behind this randomness ? Who or what decided it?
Who decides when an atom decays? Who put the natural randomness of quantum aspects/ processes?
these questions cant have definitive answers this subject is very complicated and as i mentioned earlier is not that we technologically not advanced to know the answers its the fact that the uncertainty in a quantum system and its tendency to change state under any observation influence prevents us from being able to measure some of its properties, but it is known that the process is uncertain from multiple studies an observations.
who decides when an atom will decay? well in a simple way,we know the nucleons inside the atom are held together with the nuclear force which is strong enough to account for some mass in the atom(E=mc2 in a nutshell), so how would for example an alpha particle escape with this strong force acting like a barrier, well this alpha particle is thought of to be as a wave and its position can be anywhere in this wave its making and when this wave hits the barrier some of this wave will make it through although a very small part, but the alpha particle happens to be in this small part of the wave that passed the barrier so the alpha particle basically tunneled through the barrier without even interacting with it and it then will be expelled out due to energy from electromagnetic force, i don't think anyone will ever know when will the wave pass or when will an alpha particles happens to be there, never ever
Johnaudi wroteIf you're going to create our world in a smaller prototype, and start off with the very same seed with what our current universe has started, you're going to end up the same place doing the same thing, our historical figures will still do the same mistakes, they will still exist, everything will happen the way it is happening right now.
you are looking into it using classical simple theories, that was proved to be different than that around a century ago and your not taking into consideration any of the uncertainty aspects of the universe.
Johnaudi wroteI highly disagree with this though:
so when you are generating random numbers from radioactive decay you really use each variable once! its really Pure randomness.
Whatever is causing the radioactivity in such components is following a certain path, that can be extremely complex that humans cannot calculate it all at once, there's a certain physic behind it that is causing it to do that amount of the so called "decay".
Remember that everything we have discovered so far is "random" for us, but once we know how it actually "works", we'll be able to preset a calculus for it and explain it piece by piece... People in the past thought the winds' direction was random, the time it rains, it shines, or when there's a rainbow... But when time passes, our specie has discovered how all of them actually work, destroying the randomness of their existence.
i know how are you thinking of it, yes you are right only on the macro scale where physics can explain everything. but man i said it now about 5 times we not knowing the secrets in any quantum system is not because we lack the technology or knowledge to it! maybe we will make some discoveries about the quantum mechanics in the future but in my opinion there will never be any Certain laws of some aspects of quantum mechanics not now not in thousand years, until then i am sure that will will be using quantum mechanics everywhere may even teleport using some of its phenomena all that without even fully understanding it.
since1900's we haven't figured out anything significant about quantum mechanics more that they did back then, we only proved some of their theories possible.
the article you linked me to is a theory that was long debated about but was proven to be wrong and impossible Einstein was a major player in it but he was shitted on by his own quantum mechanics field that he discovered from previous work. although Einstein was super genius he couldn't comprehend that its possible for such "Magic" in quantum mechanics yet he was wrong, and i agree that Einstein was wrong about it.
back to the stubborn uranium atom you know two atoms of the same elements are exactly exactly exactly the same (its copy-paste as we say), then can you explain to me how they emit alpha particle at different time and we are not talking about difference in microseconds, seconds, or even days we are talking of a difference millions upon millions of years sometimes keep in mind that to eliminate any external energy both atoms are in complete vaccum no nothing around them.
can you think of how would it be possible???do u think we can discover an equation that will give out a certain time on when an atom will decay in total vaccum? don't you think this equation is impossible since every atom is the same? do u believe that we can create an equation similar to y=x+x will sometimes be 2x and sometimes x^10?
if you have any idea about how the so called decay that you made fun off(weirdly) could work other than that then i would hear it from you?
and to make it even harder to have any certain form or be calculable, If you are to observe that same Uranium atom during the study you are making do you know that it will have the tendency to never decay anymore??? just by looking at it it will cease from decaying. never mind that's another complicated topic.
tt400 wroteAlthough I wonder how this would hold up in a determined universe? So if we assume a creator exists, then perhaps even radioactive decay is not random at all, but merely an extension of the act of creation?
Further, if we assume the Big Bang is that creator, then that begs the question again. Were it not for Big Bang, would there be radioactive decay? So then again, is radioactive decay then truly random?
if it is not for the Big Bang we will have nothing, but it was the conditions INSIDE the Big bang that created everything, the big bang isn't one explosion the big bang is a process, anyway what i am trying to say is that the physics and quantum mechanics and all other forces was there from the 1st moment and in my opinion they are what shaped the Big Bang to the way it did that means it isn't inherited but its always there. so yea the process was there and not created.
btw the first radioactive atom wasn't created till after couple billion years after big bang.
these topics can't be discussed by writing i am getting tired and i am sure you are too from these long posts, am not gonna do it again promise lol.