eliminator wrote
andrew55 wrote In most COs, private ISPs and ogero are meeting a certain speed limit. For example, i am connected to a CO in the Byblos area and IDM won't give me more than 4096/512. If i move to Ogero the case would be the same. I can't seem to get speeds faster than that with any ISP.
IDM can give you more speed, but they don't want to. ( Prerequisite: your attenuation and S/n values allow it )

The limit on the COs as far as I understand is from Ogero, so even when you ask a new ISP to give you more speed they won't because a normal client goes on the limited DSP.

As I said private ISPs have other backbone DSPs ( you can see a section (moukhassas lil2idara on the application form, where you usually neglect this section since it is something related to the ISPs administration, but it is in this section where they decided on which DSP you GO). I am totally sure that they can give you higher speeds if they move you onto the fast DSP. On the fast DSP they put their corporate customers. Check IDM's website they even have a dedicated email address for corporate support. So they clearly treat normal people as a class B customer, while the banks and corporation get the clean class A internet juice. Need more proof, check IDM's support number on true caller (or google's caller ID), it clearly state one of the banks names next to IDM.

Why I am sure? Because I had a contractual work with one of those companies ; ) who gets blazing speeds at their offices, while you and me wait for buffering at home

Want more evidence? If they can lie and tell you they can't give you high speeds, then you can lie also about opening a company and needing high speed ADSL. Go ahead call their technical support or client customer (not from the same number you have your ADSL on) and "ask for 8 mbps ADSL for your new startup" since you have only 3 employee you don't need SOHO and ADSL is fine and ask "I need to be present on the DSP where IDM provides higher speeds". You will be surprised on how much you can accomplish politely, with just a little bit of persistence and a talented twisted IQ ( Of course change the story because if they care a bit for their business they would probably monitor this thread no?! )
So you're telling they are willing to get out of their to give you 8 Mbps just b/c you have a small company? and all of this happens at the same cost as regular residential subscriber? It would really make sense if only this service was exponentially more expensive than the 67 dollar residential 8 M!
eliminator wrote
Sup3r wroteI appreciate the info, tho it sounds more like social engineering than "talented twisted IQ". What's the point if they're eventually going to know you're lying since you'll have to present your phone number in which you're going to apply the high speed. Where they'll know you're already subscribed with them.
Exactly "Social Engineering" but not many are familiar with the term. My point is proving that they can provide you high speed internet.

On another hand, when "andrew55" is paying money for 4Dn/1UP speed, and they are giving him 4DN/0.5UP, that means they are providing him with less than what he is paying for. That means when you go and buy 1 Kgs of rice for 1$, you expect to get a bag full of 1 Kg of rice. If you pay 1$ and get 0.75Kg of rice, this means the seller made a fraud, simply put he is stealing money from you. If you can prove that he is stealing, then you can sue him ( Ideally ).

Whether it is a bag of rice (goods) or an internet service (service) the consumer protection law is the same. And when you ask for 4DN/1UP if the ISP can provide it he must give it to you, he must put you on the fast DSP, and not on the slow one and blame it on technical difficulties.

In most cases the bandwidth is limited (by the ISP) and it is NOT that the copper wires that contributes to the drop. My telecom professor in university was an employee at OGERO and back then in 2009 (yeah 6 years ago) I still remember him saying copper wires are the least of our issues. That's what convinced me at the beginning to convince myself that high speeds are possible even with the current infrastructure, and turned out true.

Agreed. I think we can benefit from the full scope of the ADSL2+ technology. Ideally subscribers who have decent Att/SNr values should be getting full up/down speed (24/1.3) with the present copper wires.
andrew55 wroteSo you're telling they are willing to get out of their to give you 8 Mbps just b/c you have a small company? and all of this happens at the same cost as regular residential subscriber? It would really make sense if only this service was exponentially more expensive than the 67 dollar residential 8 M!
I didn't quite get you in the last comment.
I mentioned the small company under the example.

What I mean, you should be able to get any ADSL speed/package you want, as a normal client, and they are not providing it because simple put you are not a priority for them or for other ISPs. ( of course having proper attenuation and S/N values)
eliminator wrote
andrew55 wroteSo you're telling they are willing to get out of their to give you 8 Mbps just b/c you have a small company? and all of this happens at the same cost as regular residential subscriber? It would really make sense if only this service was exponentially more expensive than the 67 dollar residential 8 M!
I didn't quite get you in the last comment.
I mentioned the small company under the example.

What I mean, you should be able to get any ADSL speed/package you want, as a normal client, and they are not providing it because simple put you are not a priority for them or for other ISPs. ( of course having proper attenuation and S/N values)
Yes I understand that point. The priority part has to be related to how much money is being paid. It would make sense to make a customer priority if that customer is paying premium dollar. So someone who wants to have ADSL for a business must be paying a lot. A manager of one of the "Second Cup" places told me that his business pays A LOT for internet a month (> $ 500 a month) and he wasn't getting 8 Mbps. So I guess you can get 8 Mbps but only if you paid A LOT per month and not just $ 67.
a month later
Has anyone felt a speed restriction on youtube on IDM ? i have the 4MBps plan and i used to watch 1080 videos without buffering (on chrome, windows 8.1) three to four days ago i am noticing that videos are by default going 360 and require buffering sometimes :S (chrome, win 10) needless to say the higher resolutions have to buffer longer.
Anyone having this problem?
NAM wroteHas anyone felt a speed restriction on youtube on IDM ? i have the 4MBps plan and i used to watch 1080 videos without buffering (on chrome, windows 8.1) three to four days ago i am noticing that videos are by default going 360 and require buffering sometimes :S (chrome, win 10) needless to say the higher resolutions have to buffer longer.
Anyone having this problem?
There's this neat little trick on YouTube that let's you check how much bandwidth you're downloading from YouTube while watching a video, just right click on the video and click "Stats for nerds" and right above "Dropped frames" you'll see the current connection speed you're getting on the video, check how much is being used vs your normal full download speed on something other application or download

here's what it should look like (well, transparent now with the new YT design):
Raficoo wrote
NAM wroteHas anyone felt a speed restriction on youtube on IDM ? i have the 4MBps plan and i used to watch 1080 videos without buffering (on chrome, windows 8.1) three to four days ago i am noticing that videos are by default going 360 and require buffering sometimes :S (chrome, win 10) needless to say the higher resolutions have to buffer longer.
Anyone having this problem?
There's this neat little trick on YouTube that let's you check how much bandwidth you're downloading from YouTube while watching a video, just right click on the video and click "Stats for nerds" and right above "Dropped frames" you'll see the current connection speed you're getting on the video, check how much is being used vs your normal full download speed on something other application or download

here's what it should look like (well, transparent now with the new YT design):
http://s30.postimg.org/wp1g2v201/image.png
How did you keep the old youtube player?
apparently my speed does get to the 3207 Kbps mark (about the same as i usually get) .. but it takes up to 5 mins to get there :S so maybe they are not restricting my speed, just not fully opening the gauge .. drop by drop till full throttle :S
bogdan22 wroteHow did you keep the old youtube player?
I didn't, this is just a screenshot I took just a few days before they switched the design
25 days later
Back to modem ages on IDM at Jdeideh central.
It's been a week and support is saying it's an ogero problem can do nothing and can last for weeks !!!

I am getting 3KB/s it's great
9 days later
why do i get extremely slow download speed when downloading patches from game servers? ( League of Legends patches at 15 kB/s)
any other download is fine ( 255kB/s) and i ve asked many people and they dont experience my problem. Any solution wld be appreciated.
Could it be idm throttling?
try using a vpn .. if it worked then yes they are throttling (i think every ISP does that during rush hours as part of the FUP except for Ogero)
I received my username and password ,and was able to successfully configure the router and get it to work. However, the username (@idm.net.lb) and password are not working on the account management section of idm site. Is there a seperate account for the idm site or something is wrong?
StannisTheMannis wroteI received my username and password ,and was able to successfully configure the router and get it to work. However, the username (@idm.net.lb) and password are not working on the account management section of idm site. Is there a seperate account for the idm site or something is wrong?
make sure that your Login is your username without @idm.com.lb if this persists it is maybe from their part (specially if you are a new user) .. call support they are available 24/7
NAM wrote make sure that your Login is your username without @idm.com.lb if this persists it is maybe from their part (specially if you are a new user) .. call support they are available 24/7
It didn't work without the @idm.net.lb ,so I'll give them a call. Thank you
Does anyone know if IDM changed their policy about recharging a 30 day card in middle of a month cycle?

I am trying to recharge 2MB/s-40GB card in middle of previous card's 30 day cycle because I consumed all quota. I am still getting "Quota Reached ! Add extra traffic to reactivate your account". I would assume they want me to buy the 3.3$-2GB extra traffic card. 2 months ago and before I always charged multiple 2MB/s-40GB cards per month and it would work normally. This is the first time it didn't work. I hope it is only a bug because
3.3$/2GB = 1.65$/GB
17.6$/40GB = 0.44$/GB

It is VERY expensive to use the extra traffic card even more expensive than Ogero's 2000LL/GB(1.34$/GB or might be 1.47$/GB with tax). If this is the new policy, there is no benefit in using IDM anymore.
- Unlimited night traffic not free
- 40GB same price as ogero (17.6$)
- Extra traffic beyond monthly quota costs more
- Internet less stable (used ogero before and it is way more stable)

Edit: Apparently this is the case. I didn't read the previous page in this thread because I was so pissed off.
Guys, what ping are you getting to europe? around ~France/UK/Germany ? mine is about 150-200 ms , not very good imo. and the download speed is just horrible at 30-50 kb/s most of the day and 150-170 kb/s at odd hours like 5-6 am. I'm subscribed to the 2mb/s 40gb plan, not happy at all. i will call them tmrw to change my plan to 2mb/s unlimited, but last time i asked them about that plan they tried to persuade me not to and told me that "there's a lot of pressure on that plan , don't take it, with data cap it's better..." idk what that was about... i really just want 100ms to europe, 200kb/s (although i'm paying for 250), and a quota bigger than 40 gb or preferably unlimited. i mean seriously? biggest data cap for 2mb/s speed is 40gb? wtf. can IDM give me what i need or switch to ogero like everybody is doing?
Ogero is playing dirty with every ISP .. Ogero will throttle other users in favor for it's own .. so you can see a very big gap between peak and off-peak hours. Unfortunately for the best speed and ping you have to get Ogero
khatib1 wroteDoes anyone know if IDM changed their policy about recharging a 30 day card in middle of a month cycle?
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Yup they changed it and you're obligated for those extra expensive bandwidth.

And for the IDM service, guys, overall it's been disastrous, I screwed my self because I bought digital fifa 16 on ps4 and now I'm stuck downloading 19GBs for a 40KB/sec speed internet all day, and between 4am and 8 am it's 250KB/sec(I have 4M). I've been keeping the game downloding for a complete day and a half and only 7GBs are done, I used to download GTA V CoD Fifa 15... All where digital copies and I never experienced that kind of slowness. I called IDM yesterday and they checked my line attenuation, my bandwidth and everything and eventually they said my central is crowded with users and they can't do anything. It's really frustrating and I can't do anything, the ogero 2M unlimited is expensive for me and I really need unlimited and I can't risk changing to like cyberia terranet... And end up with the same condition or worse. If someone has an advice please share, I'm really screwed up and have nothing to do.

Note: For people who are confused to which isp to subscribe. DON'T EVER THINK OF SUBSCRIBING WITH IDM!!
gamer4life wrote
khatib1 wroteDoes anyone know if IDM changed their policy about recharging a 30 day card in middle of a month cycle?
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Yup they changed it and you're obligated for those extra expensive bandwidth.

And for the IDM service, guys, overall it's been disastrous, I screwed my self because I bought digital fifa 16 on ps4 and now I'm stuck downloading 19GBs for a 40KB/sec speed internet all day, and between 4am and 8 am it's 250KB/sec(I have 4M). I've been keeping the game downloding for a complete day and a half and only 7GBs are done, I used to download GTA V CoD Fifa 15... All where digital copies and I never experienced that kind of slowness. I called IDM yesterday and they checked my line attenuation, my bandwidth and everything and eventually they said my central is crowded with users and they can't do anything. It's really frustrating and I can't do anything, the ogero 2M unlimited is expensive for me and I really need unlimited and I can't risk changing to like cyberia terranet... And end up with the same condition or worse. If someone has an advice please share, I'm really screwed up and have nothing to do.

Note: For people who are confused to which isp to subscribe. DON'T EVER THINK OF SUBSCRIBING WITH IDM!!

well i think that IDM is throttling everything related to game servers. Whenever i m browsing or downloading anything not related to gaming, i get 240-250 kB/s. However when i run online games patches such as SMITE, LOL.... I dont get past 40kB/s. And yes, I ve asked friends downloading the same content from ogero and they experience no problems.