Kassem wrote and then I'll consider buying some lenses as the need arises. But yes, I'll most probably find out that I need a wide angle lense very shortly.
28mm (equivalent), which is the wider end of a normal kit lens, is pretty wide. You'll see. As comparison, and iPhone camera is equivalent to 35mm. But sometimes you need more.

A prime lens also offers added image quality and light-capture performance (faster f-stop).

Anyway, keep us updated, and glad to discuss that, as I already mentioned.
Hello guys,
Do you know where I can find 16+ GB SD cards for DSLRs ad how to know if they work with your camera (because i heard that some SD cards do not work on some dslrs)
I got very confused of whether to buy the Canon 600D or the Nikon D3200 because both of them are great cameras. And once you read the specs of every one of them, you notice that they match up very closely.

But eventually I decided to go with the 600D (which was my initial choice) because, according to some reviews, it performs much better at low light conditions (image quality does not suffer from noticeable amounts of noise until ISO 3200 vs ISO 800 on the D3200). Moreover, I think the articulated LCD screen (which also has higher resolution) can prove to be useful in certain circumstances.

What do you guys think? Any final comments before I place the order? :)
The higher the megapixel, the worse the lowlight performance. The advantage of high megapixels is during optimal lighting conditions where it can register more "clean" details and allow more freedom in cropping.

I personally only advise to buy Canon in the Lebanese market. The reason being that you can find alot more used lenses and accessories for Canon than Nikon. Internationally, suppliers of accessories tend to release the Canon versions of their gear faster than the Nikon ones.

I am soon getting Godox V850 flashes and V860C (C stands for Canon). They are some state of the art flashes that have even surpassed the flashes from Canon themselves. The V860C for example has ETTL, and has a built in lithium ion battery that allows the flash to recycle ridiculously fast and is equivalent to 12 AA batteries in charge speed and duration, at one third the price of a Canon flash.
Kassem wroteI got very confused of whether to buy the Canon 600D or the Nikon D3200 because both of them are great cameras. And once you read the specs of every one of them, you notice that they match up very closely.
I was also hesitating between the two initially. I wanted a Nikon initially, because I like the "Nikon colors" and I just like the name and wanted something else than Canon. Nikon, as a brand, has some "charisma" and usually do good quality cameras, even if lacking. They also have a great lens choice.

Anyway, so:

Pro Canon:
- Canon usually have a simpler, more straight forward (hence better IMO) interface.
- Better for video due to Magic Lantern
- Tilting screen is a big plus, more than one might think at first.
- More realistic and neutral colors by default (in JPEGs). Nikon often have a green tint to their images, which is very visible when you put a Nikon and Canon shot of the same subject next to each other. A Nikon camera might need some post processing done on the raw to get neutral colors. Canon just seem to get neutral and realistic colors out of the box, more then any other brand. This is important.

Pro Nikon:
- For the cameras you listed, better performance overall, such as better FPS, higher Megapixels.
- They have the habit of putting buttons all over the body which sounds like a good idea. Usually the more buttons the better!
- Nikon :)
- Some real great lenses, such as the 40mm macro. Great choice. You can also use the old manual Nikon AF lenses which are still produced and some of them are quite cheap for what they offer.
- If you want to do video with autofocus, the Nikon kit lens is just a little more silent than the Canon kit lens when autofocusing, but anyway, with both cameras, you're better off doing manual focus when shooting video with the kit lens, if you dont want horrible sounds in your video.

I would have gone for the Canon, mostly because of the colors issue, but I finally bought a Micro four thirds camera.

Honestly, I think you'll be OK with either. They are both decent cameras and offer respectable performance for your money.
rtwo2008 wroteThe higher the megapixel, the worse the lowlight performance.
First time I hear this. Honestly, I don't think so.
rolf wrote I was also hesitating between the two initially. I wanted a Nikon initially, because I like the "Nikon colors" and I just like the name and wanted something else than Canon.
Pro Canon:...
Pro Nikon:...
"Most" of these differences are not brand-centric, they are camera-centric. Each camera release has its own pros and cons. So compare the cam that fits your needs with its equivalent in other brands to decide.
rolf wrote - If you want to do video with autofocus, the Nikon kit lens is just a little more silent than the Canon kit lens when autofocusing, but anyway, with both cameras, you're better off doing manual focus when shooting video with the kit lens, if you dont want horrible sounds in your video.
Canon are now far ahead from Nikon with video due to their new system called STM (Stepper Motor) which eliminates autofocus noise during video. The Canon 70D is the camera that has the most advanced STM to date and is being picked up by DSLR videographers.
rolf wrote
rtwo2008 wroteThe higher the megapixel, the worse the lowlight performance.
First time I hear this. Honestly, I don't think so.
This has nothing to do with our opinions. The smaller the pixels (to be able to fit more pixels in the same APS-C surface area), the less light falls on each. Therefore the SNR (signal to noise ratio) decreases and you get more noise. That's a fact that can only be solved with better sensor technology; but at the same technological level, the one with higher megapixels covering the same sensor surface area will have more noise and therefore worse lowlight performance.

As I said before, I give courses in Photography and Lighting, so this is what I do and I have a firm grasp on these subjects.
rtwo2008 wrote Canon are now far ahead from Nikon with video due to their new system called STM (Stepper Motor) which eliminates autofocus noise during video. The Canon 70D is the camera that has the most advanced STM to date and is being picked up by DSLR videographers.
I know about STM, that is why I specifically said "the kit lens" in my phrase. The kit lens for the camera we're talking about is not STM.
rtwo2008 wrote
rolf wrote
rtwo2008 wroteThe higher the megapixel, the worse the lowlight performance.
First time I hear this. Honestly, I don't think so.
This has nothing to do with our opinions. The smaller the pixels (to be able to fit more pixels in the same APS-C surface area), the less light falls on each. Therefore the SNR (signal to noise ratio) decreases and you get more noise. That's a fact that can only be solved with better sensor technology; but at the same technological level, the one with higher megapixels covering the same sensor surface area will have more noise and therefore worse lowlight performance.
Yes the noise ratio increases, at a pixel level, but you can't reduce lowlight performance to signal to noise ratio. To compare lowlight performance between the two cameras, you have to resize the image from the Nikon to the same resolution as the Canon (18 or something megapixels, down from 24), and there is no guarantee which one will have more noise overall after that. It's also a subjective matter, the quality of the noise, how it looks, etc.

Again if you'd have told me that lower megapixel cameras always have higher signal to noise ratio, I would have argued less, even though even that is not a given. Take for example a fullframe 20mp sensor and compare it to a micro 4/3 12mp sensor, which one would have a better signal to noise ratio? I bet it won't be the 12 mp. It also varies across generations and technologies. I am sure newer sensors do better than older ones.
rtwo2008 wrote "Most" of these differences are not brand-centric, they are camera-centric. Each camera release has its own pros and cons. So compare the cam that fits your needs with its equivalent in other brands to decide.
When I wrote "Pro Nikon" and "Pro Canon", I didn't mean that to be taken in the strict sense. I wasn't trying to compare Nikon to Canon as a brand. I would not do that. I was just comparing the "Canon choice" with the "Nikon choice" in this specific case, if you want.

But a lot of the points are brand-centric, such as colors. Both Canon and Nikon currently normalize their color output across all their models. There are also many similarities across cameras from the same brand, regarding how the interface is designed. The lens choice is brand-centric as well.
rolf wrote Yes the noise ratio increases, at a pixel level, but you can't reduce lowlight performance to signal to noise ratio. To compare lowlight performance between the two cameras, you have to resize the image from the Nikon to the same resolution as the Canon (18 or something megapixels, down from 24), and there is no guarantee which one will have more noise overall after that. It's also a subjective matter, the quality of the noise, how it looks, etc.

Again if you'd have told me that lower megapixel cameras always have higher signal to noise ratio, I would have argued less, even though even that is not a given. Take for example a fullframe 20mp sensor and compare it to a micro 4/3 12mp sensor, which one would have a better signal to noise ratio? I bet it won't be the 12 mp. It also varies across generations and technologies. I am sure newer sensors do better then older ones.
This is exactly what I said but using different words... Though I disagree on the subjective part. You may like the noise, but it is not subjective whether it is there or not. Cropping a frame to get the same megapixel count has nothing to do with more or less noise.
rtwo2008 wrote Cropping a frame to get the same megapixel count has nothing to do with more or less noise.
I never spoke about cropping, but re-sampling to a lower resolution.

I think that having more pixels to work with, even if it's just pixels with a lower SNR, can help noise reduction algorithms.

Anyway - regardless on our opinions about noise, thing is, you said "The higher the megapixel, the worse the lowlight performance.", and that, as a statement - alone, can be proven wrong in many ways, so as a statement, or as a rule, it's just false. I guess (now) that you meant across the same sensor size, technology, and same technology level, but you didn't specify that, so I didn't know it was the case when I first read that.

(But even if you had, I still might have argued :) simply because you used the term "lowlight performance" and that is somewhat of a subjective term and implied more than just SNR)
Ok guys I've got my Canon EOS 600D earlier today. Charging the battery right now! I've got it as part of some offer/package which is as follows:

- Canon EOS 600D
- EF-S 18-66mm f/3.5-5.6 II
- EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III
- Canon EOS Camera Bag
- SanDisk Ultra 8GB SD Card
- Eiffel 9500 Professional Tripod
- Hongdak Remote Switch
- DMK Power UV Filter 58mm

Now where do I take this for a test drive? Any recommendations? :)
Are you new to photography? I have the 700D. I bought it days before attending a photography workshop. I went out shooting few times with fellow attendees but we stopped meeting. Let's form Lebgeeks photography group hehe.
GreenM wroteAre you new to photography? I have the 700D. I bought it days before attending a photography workshop. I went out shooting few times with fellow attendees but we stopped meeting. Let's form Lebgeeks photography group hehe.
Yup, I'm new to photography and I'm learning on my own.
There are already many groups on Facebook in Lebanon, I am part of a few. Or you can start one at Lebgeeks.
If you can wait 1 month, I will receive a nice selection for very good prices.
15 days later
Again guys, what are some good locations to practice shooting pictures?
charbel316 wroteWhere can we find a cheap dslr bag?
I don't know what you call cheap. There is a new photography place in Sabtieh, I bought a small bag there for $20. It was a "special price" and it was the smallest bag - and I still don't think it's a great deal for what the bag is, but I made good use of it. Now I replaced it with something fancier that I can carry around without looking like a tourist.
Kassem wroteAgain guys, what are some good locations to practice shooting pictures?
Depends what you want to shoot!

I can tell you about a good time to practice shooting if you're into landscape stuff: The golden hour - because of the great light but also because it's a time where you will see natural light and artificial light at the same time, which can result in some rich photos.
Well I've already mentioned that I'm completely new to this. I still do not have a style and I do not know what I like and what I don't. So I'd like to practice and explore my options. But I do think I'll be interested in shooting landscapes, close-ups, or places/objects with a lot of texture and a grungy look.
There is this camera "shop" called "pick your camera" that delivers your order to your area. I talked to him and he said that he will deliver it to citymall or to costa cafe jounieh (those are the nearest places to where i live). His prices are very low and he has some interesting offers on cameras and lenses that are cheaper than USA prices. But i am a little bit worried about that. I have this phobia of those kinds of delivery. Do somebody here buy from him? And do you think i should buy from him?

This is his fb page: facebook.com/PickYourCamera

And thanks
I bought from him my 700D last year and yesterday I bought a 32GB sd card class 10, the one I got for free with the camera was 4GB class 4. I'm planning to shoot in RAW so I need a big capacity. He comes by bus from Batroun to deliver his stuff.