Is this a good specification for a gaming pc ?

ramy58

I need a gamer pc who can run the newest games to at least medium quality. Is this good ? (PS Don't ask me hard questions I'm really not good at this)

Case Thermaltake Element G
PowerSupply Gigabyte 720W
Board Asus Maximus 3 Extreme
CPU i7-860 Processor (8M Cache, 2.80 GHz)
8GB Ram Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz
Harddisk 1TB + 500GB
VGA Nvidia GTX295 1.7GB
2x DVD-RW LG
CPU Cooler Corsair H70 (all-in-one liquid cooling)
LCD Asus 24" Full-HD

riqmarmes

Yes this is more than enough, I think you might even be able to run most new games in high at least.

Edit: everything in the PC is very good, except for the graphics card that is slightly outdated but it will always be a legend :P . You could replace that with a GTX 660Ti or HD 9750 and you can play all the games in ultra.

ramy58

Thank you for replying, riqmarmes. I will think about it.

Chafic

If you want a gaming laptop with a good price go for the lenovo Y580, if you want a gaming desktop well you could build one for a really good price. And yes your specs you posted are good, but in the place of the 8 gd ram go with a 16 gd ram and the VGA go with GTX 660 or more.

Khaled

Ditch the gtx 295, the card is becoming outdated, maybe not in performance but it is a power-hungry card that produces lots of heat, not to mention the fact that you would be stuck in multi-GPU issues ( i have multi GPU and never had a problem, but others did so its worth mentioning). Depending on yr budget id recommend something like a HD7950 ( what riqmarmes tried to suggest but had a typo :P ) , if its out of budget get a 7870. The AMD offerings are better priced and have good performance this generation so i recommend them.

I cant understand why Chafic suggested the shift to 16 GB ram, they don't add any real benefit since you won't have any game that will use up more than 3 ( i'm exaggerating a bit ) GB of ram any time soon, let alone 8. So stick to the 8 GB choice.

Also, why the 1 tb + 500 gb HDD set? 1 TB is enough for everything if you don't use too much storage or if the pc is solely for gaming. if you are going to boot from it make sure its a 7200 rpm drive, that's a start, i recommend the Western Digital Black drives ( bit noisy, but good in performance ).
Or, if you can afford it, go with an SSD as boot drive, you would be amazed by the performance boost ( not in games, but more in boot times and the responsiveness of the whole system )

I honestly don't like the all in one Hydro series ( H70 ) liquid coolers but performance wise it fares quite well so if you like the liquid cooler go with it.

Lastly I have one comment to make on the build in general, why go with that i7 ? Getting a new Ivy bridge CPU is a better choice since it is considerably faster and i will assume it will be for a similar price.

And while i can understand the need for an i7 in a rendering rig, but if its only gaming your looking at then go with an i5 3570k.

That's about it for now, PM me or post back here if you need more details or have any other questions ill be glad to answer.

ramy58

Khaled, thank you for your answer. This pc is actually from almazad (used) so I cannot choose what I want (It costs 1000$). I am a really big noob and I really, really don't want to make any technological building things. I just want to buy a good PC that can run the newest games in a good quality without making any (or a few) changes to the PC. I have a good budget (more than 1000$) and I find it very difficult to find any good gaming pc in lebanon, without building it by my own. If you have any suggestions (except pcandparts.com) to help me I would really be happy about it.

yasamoka

Fitting a friend's system into $940, we were overcharged by customs and still managed to fit the following system under 1050-1100 for SURE:

Core i5 3570
ASRock H61-PS2
Gigabyte Radeon HD7950
Corsair CX600 Power Supply
8GB RAM (single stick - we had ordered dual though)
Thermaltake V4 Black
1TB WD Caviar Blue

Just a note, I had a GTX260. The 7970 (and 7950, for that matter) is anywhere between 3-4 times faster than the GTX260, and that is when the GTX260 is not VRAM bottlenecked. The GTX295 is a dual-GPU card, and assuming perfect scaling, it still performs 50%-100% less than a 7950, and has half that 1.7GB RAM available (RAM is mirrored across GPUs, so you get effectively 896MB RAM). 896MB is a SERIOUS bottleneck, and I wouldn't get that GTX295 no matter what.

Building your own PC is obviously the much more suitable option; why do you want a complete system? Building a PC is like Lego, and if you don't want to build it on your own, I'm sure we could help you out here.

Chafic

The only reason i told him to take it up to 16 gd ram is so he may be updated 3-5 years instead of buying or building a new one. ( sure updating it may seem fun but its better for a first buy)

Gamer

You could buy a new set from pcandparts

Intel i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad Core System ( 8MB Cache- Quad Core ) Intel Power PCII
ThermalTake VM400M1W2Z V9 BlacX Edition W/Dual Bay EasySwap HDD Docking Station & USB 3.0 Connectors + Side Panel + Thermaltake LT-700P Litepower 700W PSU
Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz 8MB Quad Core LGA-1155 Original Boxed -Link
Intel DB75EN w/VGA+Sound+SATA+Lan&PCI Express
Seagate 1TB ST1000DM003 7200RPM S-ATA III 64MB Hard Drive
Kingston KVR16N11/8 8GB DDR3-1600 PC3-12800
LG GH24NS90-24X DVDRW - Dual Layer SATA
Sound Built-in
Asus ENGTX550 TI DC TOP/DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 550Ti 1GB DDR5 w/HDMI
LG IPS224T Wide 21.5" LED Full HD Monitor
Star 120W Speakers Black USB
Microsoft Wired Desktop 400 USB Key+Mouse Spill-Resistant Design Link
Assembly $10.00 ( included )
PC Discount
$1,069.00
http://pcandparts.com/basesys.htm

Chafic

Me busy looking at this makes my want to buy a desktop rather than a laptop. Can anyone help me I may be getting 800-900 dollars this April and I want to get a new PC, which should I buy a lenovo Y580 or a desktop?

yasamoka

Chafic wroteMe busy looking at this makes my want to buy a desktop rather than a laptop. Can anyone help me I may be getting 800-900 dollars this April and I want to get a new PC, which should I buy a lenovo Y580 or a desktop?

Do you want mobility, or better performance, cheaper prices, better cooling, upgradeability, storage?

@Gamer: That's such a bad configuration by pcandparts I don't know what they were thinking. Seriously.

Chafic

yasamoka wroteDo you want mobility, or better performance, cheaper prices, better cooling, upgradeability, storage?

Well i may need mobility, not so much of storage cause I play my games from my external HDD. Performance should be able to hold League of legends and world of warcraft on high to ultra settings, And price range about 800-900. I don't think its possible to find one that cheap though, but I don't mind if its on medium high settings.

ramy58

Does anybody know a place where they could build you a pc with the parts that you give them ?

Tarek

YASAMOKA will you built it just for the bragging rights and experience :D
bring pizza with you :P

AvoK95

Don't buy a stupid gaming laptop!

You can build this for cheaper and better performance from PCandParts.com:
Intel Core i5 3470
8GB Kingston DDR3 1333MHz RAM
Intel DB75EN
Thermaltake V4 case
XFX 750W PSU (From CompuWorld Dekweneh)
DVDRW
1TB Seagate HDD
Sapphire 7850 (From MicroCityWeb)

Total comes to $921 without VAT add %10 VAT and it becomes $1013.1

The GTX 295 might be a bit faster in some stuff, but it's DX10 so some games such as Crysis 3 won't even open on it. The 7850 is from the latest generation and can run any 1080P games just fine. You'll even have warranty on your side.

yasamoka

Tarek wroteYASAMOKA will you built it just for the bragging rights and experience :D
bring pizza with you :P

I don't mind building it, at all.
Pepperoni please.

yasamoka

AvoK95 wroteThe GTX 295 might be a bit faster in some stuff, but it's DX10 so some games such as Crysis 3 won't even open on it. The 7850 is from the latest generation and can run any 1080P games just fine. You'll even have warranty on your side.

The GTX295 is slower than the HD7850. Overclock that HD7850 and it'll be over 50% faster mostly (at most?).

AvoK95

yasamoka wrote
AvoK95 wroteThe GTX 295 might be a bit faster in some stuff, but it's DX10 so some games such as Crysis 3 won't even open on it. The 7850 is from the latest generation and can run any 1080P games just fine. You'll even have warranty on your side.
The GTX295 is slower than the HD7850.

Yup my bad. The 7850 is faster..

Also, @ramy58

The Rules wrote 1. Write your post in proper English, as if it were part of an academic essay. Yes, seriously.

Chafic

AvoK95 wroteYou can build this for cheaper and better performance from PCandParts.com

I never knew there was a site and shop like this in Lebanon. Do they send it to you or can you go and pick it up.

AvoK95

They send it to you and pay on delivery