nefe_lpmk
Dear Lebgeeks ,
I Have a top notch pc and I want to buy a new 22,23 " PC monitor .
Due to the high range of monitors availabe I cant decide which one is best for 230-260$ price rage .
Please a little help
The most common available options with Pcandparts Sample prices :
LG E2380V Wide 23" Full HD LED
HP 2311x Wide 23" LED $215.00
LG E2290V Wide 22" Full HD LED Ultra Slim $233.00
Viewsonic VX-2253MH Wide 22" LED $235.00
Samsung PX2370 Wide 23" LED
LG E2381VR Wide 23" Full HD LED Ultra Slim $239.00
Viewsonic VG2228WM Wide 21.5" TFT $254.00
Viewsonic VA-2448WM Wide 24" LED $249.00
LG 2353V Wide 23" TFT $256.00
thank you
AVOlio
Remove all the brands except Samsung.
If you want to buy a TV, you should go for Samsung.
Just like if you were gonna pee, you would go to the bathroom and not the kitchen..
Same thing, weird analogie, i know :p
Most of the members here would have recommended the Samsung PX2370 Wide 23" LED , but if you have noticed its N/A @pcandparts.
So i suggest you would go buy another equivalent good samsung TV other than pcandparts.
yasamoka
I recommend you avoid buying an HDTV for gaming since it can possibly induce input lag...
If you want to buy a TV, the first things I would look at are:
1) Does it have an IPS panel?
2) Does it have a WORKING gaming mode that reduces / eliminates input lag by removing all post-processing effects done to enhance the picture quality? (Check reviews for this)
3) Does it have known EDID / scaling / resolution issues with certain / all graphics cards at 1080p 60Hz?
This applies mostly for TVs being bought for gaming PCs, but the 1st should be looked for for every TV out there (at least until we get out of the LCD era).
For a PC monitor, monitors are more of less the same, since they mostly use TN panels, good for gaming, cheap, but lacking in color fidelity and accuracy. The Samsung PX2370 is a good buy, of course. In my own experience, since I own one, I would also recommend the Viewsonic VX2450WM-LED, though I think it's been replaced by a newer model. I have taken a look at 2 Samsung PX2370's till now, and I got an accurate eye. They are both inaccurate out of the box, and calibrated they mostly converge to the same picture quality.
Both are lagless according to my own experience, and so should be almost all monitors available in this market, as only the high end IPS professional-grade expensive monitors (mostly not available here) are prone to lag due to image processing.
May I ask, what rig do you have? If you would like, post it on the other topic "Post your rig here".
nefe_lpmk
@yasamoka All the screens I listed above are PC monitors not TV-LCD
As for my rig : core quad , 4gb ram , gigabyte GTX 560 , large PSU .
I am mainly choosing between Samsung PX2370 and Viewsonic equivilent .
If u think of another good gaming / dvd Monitor outside the list , feel free to recommend it .
MohammedSF
if you're interested in 3D experience, get LG D2342P 23" LED 3D Monitor, it comes with LG's Cinema 3D technology with 2x passive 3D glasses..
274$ (10% VAT included)
AvoK95
Samsung PX2370 = EPIC (I have one)
There's also the LG IPS224T, which is IPS panel, meaning having a beautiful picture, it's only 21.5" though. Don't think of going small. My 23" PX2370 felt so big when I first got it, now I just wish I bought a 27" 2560x1600 screen :/
mr-anderson
A Samsung TV is too mainstream
i would recommend an LG. Do your research and you will find out which one is better.
yasamoka
Brand doesn't matter much these days for TVs. They all use panels from each other. Samsung and Panasonic often use the same IPS panel. My Hyundai E420D used the same IPS panels as the top-of-the-line CCFL-backlit LCD Samsung / Sony(?) TVs.
Back then, when PVA panels used to be common on TVs, Sony used its own PVA panels. Now that IPS is cheaper, better, and offers better blacks than before, along with its advantages of better colors, less color shift, etc... there is no reason for a premium TV not to include one. That includes Samsung, Sony, LG, Sharp, Panasonic.
Maybe different backlights are sometimes used with the same panel across different TVs, I don't know. This would be the only thing in the LCD display that differs.
You see these professional monitors from Eizo, NEC, HP? They all use LG IPS panels. At least, 1-2 years ago, LG were the leaders in IPS panel manufacturing. They may still be today.
nefe_lpmk
Would u guys recommend buying a ~350$ 3d enabled screen + NVidia Glasses for 150$
Is PC 3d worth the investment ( for games and movies ) ?
or just get a good samsung 23" Led screen
MohammedSF
@nefe_lpmk
forget the Active 3D technology used by Nvidia !
it coasts much more on the monitor and requires an expensive 150$+ Active Glasses, while Passive 3D technology uses the same method used in Cinemas with much cheaper glasses and you can use any passive glasses in the world even the ones you got from the Cinema !
witch means you can watch 3D movies with all your family, while Active Glasses coasts 100$+ for an extra glasses, WTH !
Add the headache/dizziness caused by flickering of Active Glasses and screens, the Passive 3D wins..
yasamoka
The passive 3D technology uses polarized glasses...it's nowhere near the 3D depth offered by the active shutter glasses, which actually send a frame to each eye, in succession, rather than depending on the glasses to filter out the picture each eye needs.
The glasses are much cheaper, yes, and it's a cheaper alternative for when there are many people around, but seriously, it looks like papers in front of each other. It looks nowhere near "3D".
He's asking about a PC monitor, so he mostly wouldn't care if he wanted to show others. He can still use the 2D mode, and for games, he can have active shutter glasses.
This isn't the problem. The problem is that 3D gaming requires that one frame is rendered per eye. This means twice the workload on the GPU, thus half the framerate.
Since there is no single GPU out there that can max most games out at 60FPS, whatever graphics card you have, I wouldn't recommend 3D gaming on less than a 2-way or 3-way SLI / Crossfire setup. SLI could be setup as stereoscopic SLI, assigning 1 card to each eye. This means that you CAN run SLI with mid-range cards, as you don't have to worry about dipping below 60FPS (microstutter would kill things). On AMD's side, I'm not sure.
Point is, forget it if you don't have SLI or CF, preferably high-end cards (670s/680s or 7950s/7970s).
nefe_lpmk
Thanks for all the opinions , I Read about the double duty on GPU and since SLI Solution in Lebanon is so expensive I will no be getting it , Not worth paying 600$ for 3d . This tech needs to mature 2-3 years before we fully enjoy it .
I will be getting the Samsung PX2370 from abed tahan since PCandParts is out of stock .
Thank you for opinions
MohammedSF
@yasamoka
yup, that's right, Active method WAS the winner in quality & depth, because the Passive method will cut horizontal resolution in half and you can't watch 3D in full HD 1080, you'll get 540 for each eye vs 1080 for each eye in Active method..
But that was the older version of the Passive method not the newer version used now in a monitor like LG's D2342P !
it's a Full HD 1080P in 3D !
Passive method sends 2 frames at the same moment to the screen with different polarization, the glasses filters each frame to each eye, so there's no extra load on the GPU and there's no need of high speed vertical refreshing "120Hz+"
Although, modern Passive 3D monitors are 120Hz & 240Hz..
3D Passive Glasses are inexpensive, light weight, comfortable and if you don't like the look of the included glasses or Cinema's glasses versus the look of Active glasses, take a look at these Passives :
http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u94712/gunnar-optiks-glasses.jpg
http://www.raybansfr2012.com/images/50Ray-Ban-3296-Gold-Frame-Polarized-Glasses.jpg
http://www.brilliantstore.com/pimagesl/l_visual-world-vw-aviator-gd.jpg
http://salestores.com/stores/images/images_747/793573831620.jpg
http://ssma1221.cafe24.com/ebay/0lg/2012/05/14/f360/img.jpg
http://www.hometheater.com/images/archivesart/1207Gear.2.jpg
PS. there's high quality 3D Polarized Sun-Glasses & Custom-Made Optical Glasses !
nefe_lpmk
Guys I discovered that the Samsung PX2370 is kinda old ( 2 years ) , aint no newer screen that beat it with same price tag 250-300$ or is it still superior ?
PowerPC
i used to have a Dell ultra sharp 23" IPS LED backlit display, and it was awesome. It should be in that price range.
It does however have kinda aggressive anti-glare coating on it, which some people don't like.
nefe_lpmk
I want to to let you know guys that i found the px2370 after so much searching and driving its so rare to find since it is a 2010 screen .
As for the screen it is awesome picture is crystal clear , fits right there , HD wallpapers ' are alive' :p
If you can find this rare screen buy it :)
