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hey guys,so im confused between creative and asus
these are the 2 cards

creative blaster titanium

asus xonar dx

is the price difference worth getting the creative one? i can't identify them by specs myself, what do you think?
@Shant: Mate, with all my respect to Creative but with the “ASUS XONAR” there is no match, from all aspects.

Note: the Cheapest “XONAR DS” not the “Essence STX” outperform any available Creative one.


Regards.
Xonar DS outperforms the Creative X-Fi Titanium HD?
Titanium HD competes with the high-end Xonars. I will link you.
@yasamoka: Yeah, it does, ask the “XONAR” users if they ever faced drivers problems whereas, Creative users faced many problems with their “Alchemy” do you think a sound card works well without a driver? I guess not. Creative might be focusing on “High End” ones like the Titanium series but overall they have lost ground and these are facts.

Here is an example about what I am talking:

ASUS Essence STX VS Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty:
http://www.overclock.net/a/battle-of-kings-creative-x-fi-vs-asus-xonar

Now this is the Comparison between shant options:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/05/26/asus-xonar-dx-pci-express-soundcard/6

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/soundcards/2011/01/14/creative-x-fi-tianium-hd-review/2

Note: it is clear who the winner is ;).



Regards.
The first compares the STX to the original titanium, not the Titanium HD.
Quoting from the first article too:
"As for the drivers, I have to speak to this. Both drivers suck. Many of you out there who have used Creative, Realtek or Asus will know that the drivers can be unreliable at any stage during ownership. Luckily, I didn't run into these issues, but I did notice that the Creative needed more driver fiddling than the Asus to get the same degree of sound quality. The ease of use of the Asus makes it better for those who know less about audio."
Meaning Creative drivers need fiddling to get the best audio quality out of them. Nothing serious.
I have the original titanium and I've never had any problems, besides the card stopping to work intermittently, that was 1 year ago, disable enable and it would work fine, it's been a year I never saw this problem again. It could have been due to anything, not necessarily drivers.

About ALChemy, it's only a piece of software that converted EAX calls to OpenAL calls, since Vista dropped support for EAX. That's all. It has ALWAYS worked with me. Always. (It isn't related to driver or driver issues).

The ones you hear majorly whining about Creative are those who used to try them on Nvidia chipsets. They used to hiss and crackle. This was due to the Nvidia chipset prioritizing PCI-E bandwidth and data for the graphics cards, choking the soundcard. Since these chipsets have stopped producing since 2008, it's no longer a valid point nowadays.

The second review concerns the xonar dx, when the Titanium HD was not yet released.

The third review concerns the Titanium HD, and look what they said in the article:
"We’ve seen similar specifications from both Asus and Auzentech, but this is Creative’s first attempt in recent years to focus on audio fidelity for music rather than gaming."
Creative focuses on audio fidelity.
"For music production, we prefer our Hercules DJ RMX console, while the Asus Xonar Essence STX is clearer for audio playback."
Meaning it's Titanium HD vs. STX, not vs DX, let alone vs DS.
"Even then, gamers will be better off with Asus’ Xonar DX, which has outputs for 7.1 analogue surround sound and great all-round audio quality."
Emphasis on "great all-round audio quality". Meaning the Xonar DX may be more suitable for gamers, not due to BETTER audio quality, but it can be done due to "great all-round audio quality".

Although we can probably guess that Shant needs it for gaming, he did not specify so. Titanium HD is good for music, for example. In terms of audio quality, it seems better than the DX, but less than the STX.

AND the STX is more expensive, around 170+.

This is my point.
@yasamoka: Indeed, mate, the ASUS XONAR DX "great all-round audio quality" the score shows that and this is what shant needs. Concerning the whining, I have dealt personally with the “Creative XFI Titanium” on my ”RII-E” even with Vista 64Bit Sp1 and lots of update patches problems never went off.

Note: the XONAR STX closes match is the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty and nothing else, thus, the XONAR STX still beats it by a good margin.


Cheers.
one does not simply find a sound card thats good in everything!
seriously is there no sound card thats good both in gaming and music ? although i don't care much about music,id rather have that option too,since games have music in them :P
its mostly gonna be used for gaming tho
Tarek, the Titanium HD is the sequel of the Titanium Fatal1ty.. it competes now with the STX.. the old titanium have been superseded. Other than that, it seems we agree.
Shant,, true. and you can't pay a fortune for a card that is good at everything. The Xonar DX seems like it's a good all-rounder (but I worry about its price compared to the competition, 70 seems inexpensive).
@yasamoka: Yeah, we do :).

@shant: Mate, do not worries the “XONAR DX” will not cost you a fortune: D thus, 145$ T.T.C. only.
i am lost in singularity, need more people to give their thoughts
shant wrotei am lost in singularity, need more people to give their thoughts
what is the device you are outputting sound to?
i did not purchase a headphone yet
shant wrotei did not purchase a headphone yet
If you won't get a decent headphone or sound system, I guess the sound card choice won't be an issue
so why don't you start choosing the headphone first?
no no,i will buy that after i get a soundcard, i will research headphones later,already have an old japanese headphone,not sure brand or model number,but sound is pretty good(of course not as good as ones these days),anyway as i said, soindcard now,headphone later
ok nono
my take on it is that they both seem on equal par and with the sound, it's very hard to differentiate once you buy a low high-end or more card
so just grab the cheapest deal you can find and invest the money that's left in a turtle beach px5 and that should wrap up the whole deal
the money of the headphone is not an issue, the money of the sound card is, i just want to make sure if paying extra is worth it over the asus card? (or some other card thats worth paying a bit more $) ?
6 days later
hi guys i'm in the market for a sound card and a headphone/set (gearing towards the Sennheiser PC 360 or maybe sennheiser HD598)

should I get ASUS XONAR-DX or this Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D THX PCIE Sound Card SB1350 or Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCI Express Sound Card ?
and what is the difference in sound quality

I use it mostly for gaming (60%-70%) and also music and movies.
any recommendations? anyone has used the headset before ?
You actually have more options that that, you have: Titanium, Titanium HD, Recon3D, Xonar DG, Xonar DX, Xonar D2X, Xonar Essence STX, and Omega's soundcards too. What are you getting the soundcard mainly for?
yasamoka are you replaying to my thread ? becayse it doesnt say in your reply.

but anyway like i said mainly gaming (first person shooters like MW3, and Black ops. and Battlefield 3 , and some RTS like starcraft 2)

and also some music mainly rock and instrumental with some pop. ( i dont like "BASSY" headphones and i'm not into techno or trance.)

what's best for me in terms of Sound card ? my budget is around 80-100$ for this i guess.
6 months later
Guys, i need a Soundcard also, As i am having very trouble setting my 5.1 surround sound on the onboard sound of my Board.
My budget is horrible, that i am considering getting those 10$ PCIe sound cards from pcandparts.
Even if i get those, will they make my 5.1 work ?! Exclude the quality now, but at least will they make it work ?!