My new GTX 680 Rig.

AVOlio · 2012-05-16T18:19:54+00:00

Ok so from all the requests that i had since i wrote the post on that other used case topic, I decided to open another topic in building a Rig (Only case for...

yasamoka

I can't but agree with you...he said he's not OCing, I don't know why he is getting a K series CPU.

The-MMMs

You can cut a bit on money with the WD, isn't worth just 1 black unless you get 2 of them and Raid0 them

That being said, if no overclock save the money (buying the most expensive doesn't mean it's more future proof, this isn't a car) - not to mention you wont realize any difference between the i5 and i7 with respect to gaming (which is what im presuming your using the the PC for)

Also it would be a waste to get that PC without a decent LED monitor - those are around 200$ as well

Ballad has some good points as well, please consider them, you can save a lot and still be happy with your build.

AVOlio

Ok thanks guys for your opinions.
First of all @Ballad,
The reason why i chose the i7 3770k is because its Ivy, which i have been told its more advanced, with less power consumption etc etc..
So what do you think i should really get as a CPU ?!

For the VGA, i didnt realize that PCandP had the new GTX 600 series! thanks for letting me know!
I actually emailed them and asked for the price of Asus GTX 690 ;) Said to myself if i am going to spend this much, why wouldnt i get the bigger and the better...
And if you think 690 is too much, will the "Inno3D Geforce GTX 680 4GB DDR5 Dual w/TV" do the trick as a replacement ?! its 625$.

For the motherboard, i really have no clue which one to get, as all of you probably know that yes this PC is for gaming, i want a strong fast MObo and CPU which will really lower the loading time of the games. Also a fast HDD later on.

Ram, Do you think the Ram i chose is too much ?!
Again i want a faster Ram just like the Mobo and Cpu and HDD, for less loading screens.

For the case, i saw the case you recommended, its nice. So probably i'll end up getting it, and tune it up with some extra LED fans maybe.

Also, i realized that you guys didnt comment on the PSU, so i guess its fine.
Another also, if you think that the UPS is too much, i want it to be that way. Or it isnt too much ?!

The-MMMs wroteAlso it would be a waste to get that PC without a decent LED monitor - those are around 200$ as well

Man, nah, i have a 32'' LCD TV, i'll be using that one. Along with the PS3 and the receiver.

Ok so let me hear your second thoughts about them.

yasamoka

Ivy Bridge means all the Intel Core i5/7 3xxx series, meaning Core i5 3570K is also Ivy Bridge and costs $100 less and serves your gaming needs equally as the i7 3770K.

Asus GTX690 would probably cost you an arm and a leg, not to mention that to fit within $2000 budget you will have to skimp on other components, which is not too good considering you are now running essentially double the GPU horsepower...

Mobo and CPU will not lower the loading times of the games. The bottleneck concerning this issue is the storage medium (I/O). Going HDD for good loading times is a BIG no-no. Invest in at least a single 128GB/256GB SSD. Whatever SSD will surely get you better loading times than a single HDD. Else, go RAID (meaning you get 2 identical HDDs or more and run them together in a special operating mode to double / triple / etc... loading times). However, they would still be slower than going SSD. And make more noise. And use up more power. And fail faster. And if one fails, you lose your whole data. So you would need backup, except if you only store games there, or only backup your important files (which you should do regardless).

RAM size does NOT affect loading times too. The recommended amount of RAM is just an enough amount that the game can comfortably use. Meaning anything starting with 4GB or above, since some games are starting to use around 2GB RAM at their peak. Leave a bit for OS, some background tasks, etc...

Focus on getting a good case with good airflow first, THEN take care of looks. Getting a case because it has flashy LEDs usually makes you pay more for less cooling, or distracts you away from ensuring good cooling.

PSU: There are some great XFX units available at pcandparts, they use internally some pretty similar components, but they are cheaper. Mind that they are not better or more efficient than the Corsair PSU. But they do the job pretty well too.

32" LCD TV: What model? What if it has input lag? Does it have a gaming mode? Did you try gaming on it with a PC before? If so, do you notice any lag? (Test while running a game that easily runs on pretty much anything, get CoD and run it at lowest, download FRAPS and monitor framerate, it should be above 60).

Aaaaand if you are not OCing, do not go for K series CPU since the only extra they offer is ability to OC. Save some money. Mobo, if you're not OCing don't go for a mobo that is made to guarantee good OCing. Any budget-oriented mobo would be fine. High-end ASUS mobos made for OCing are not really targeted towards non-OCers except if there is a certain killer feature that they have and you would like to use (more SATA ports maybe? Just an example.)

AVOlio

Its a Samsung 32'' LCD TV, series 6.
I dont know if it has input lag, i tried my Bros PC on it once, i dont remember any lags :3
But anyway, im still sticking with my TV, and if it will have any lags, i'll get a new Monitor.

Ok and for the other specs, i remade them entirely.
Here they are:

3.60 GHz - i7-3820 10M/LGA2011 $309.00
ThermalTake VN400A1W2N Commander MS-I Link $55.00
Intel DX79TO w/Sound+SATA+1GB Lan+Firewire+Raid+PCIe -Full ATX (DDR3) (LGA2011) $215.00
Inno3D Geforce GTX 680 4GB DDR5 Dual w/TV $725.00
Samsung SH-S222 22X DVDRW - Dual Layer Black SATA 20$
2TB WD2002FAEX 7200RPM SATAII 64MB Black Edition -Link $190.00
Kingston HyperX T1 Black Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3T1BK3/12GX for $111.00
Thermaltake TPG-1050M ToughPower Grand 1050W PSU 282$
PCE 2200 VA UPS XP Series $348.00

Total: 2254$ Exluding all VAT and shipping.

My only concern is, is the Mobo good ?!
And do you think i should add an SSD instead of the HDD ?!
Or maybe get the SSD for gaming storage, and the HDD for normal storage ?!

AvoK95

You are overkilling to to much.
Just get an i5 35xx series (Non K series)
The Asus Z77 board
8gigs of regular Kinston ram
750W PSU
1TB HDD
The 680/670/660Ti (All have similar performance)

Even if you spend that money on the specs you chose above, you will hav the exact same performance as this PC I suggested
Also no need for an SSD , and if you add an SSD for storage you'll spend more money the system itself.

The-MMMs

it's really about how much money your willing to blow man.

Avok has a really nice list there and really that's WAY more than enough, ESPECIALLY considering Lebanese inflated prices

Yasamoka has some very valid points as well.

Also for the issue of SSD, it's more of a future upgrade thing you do, making it primary storage and you'll soon run out of space fast considering the size of games and Windows these days.

Even if i could (financially) i'd still buy a PC like the one AvoK listed as compared to yours and use the money difference to buy like a life time supply of bonjus juice.

You won't realize much of a difference between the two, if any. Unless you benchmark and test hardware and/or render 1080p videos.

yasamoka

AVOlio, you seem to have read almost nothing of my post. At least discuss my points or justify what you're getting.

ballad

If I was in your shoes, I would get this system (I checked PC&P btw)

3.4 GHz - i5-3570 6M/LGA1155 $226.00
Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 (DDR3) (LGA1155) Link $164.00
3x Kingston DDR3-1333 4GB 3x$22.00
ThermalTake VN400A1W2N Commander MS-I Link $55.00
Transcend TS128GSSD720 128GB SSD SATA III 2.5" SSD Drive internal $144.00
1TB ST1000DM003 7200RPM S-ATA III 64MB $90.00
Gigabyte GV-N670OC-2GD 1.0 GeForce GTX 670 2GB DDR5 $465 (new price it seems)
Thermaltake TPX-675M ToughPower XT 675W PSU $124.00
Gigabyte M6900 Precision Optical Gaming Mouse Link $25.00
Gigabyte K8100 Aivia Gaming Keyboard Link $71.00
_______________________________________________________
total 1575$
and it's the same as all the builds above in terms of gaming performance and you will increase your loading speeds

and man you seem to know nothing about psu's
1000W??!! chou triple sli?
your system will need like 500W

MohammedSF

Wait a minute, PC&P has a new hot deal on "Gigabyte GV-N680OC-2GD 1.0 GeForce GTX 680 2GB DDR5" @ 599$ (659$ inc VAT) it's the hottest deal you can get cuz it's 525$ in USA !

It has the Windforce 3x cooling solution, clocked "Core: 1071mhz / Mem: 6008mhz"

Get a 2700k sandy and forget about ivy's cuz they don't OC too much, you can save up to 180$ here..

Get a Frio-OCK or better cooler and you can clock it 5GHz easy and outperform a 4.6GHz 3770k..

With your saved $$ get Maximus IV Extreme-Z or Asrock Fatality Z68 "Both designed by ROG engineers"

Edit: 1050w is an overkill unless you want to Tri-SLI later, 800w is enough even for 2x680 in SLI, get the Gigabyte Pro Odin 800w @ 157$ it has a powerful 62A Multi-12v-Rails

yasamoka

MohammedSF, he doesn't want to OC. In that case, he should go for Ivy anyways.

AVOlio

@Yasamoka,
Bro, yes i read your post. More than one time actually. And you got me convinced in some stuff also,
First, for the CPU, i probably will get the i5, its just that i put in my mind from the beginning that i want an i7.
You convinced me also to get an HDD and an SSD. as well as some other people.

For the GTX 690, the price is 1305$ (excl VAT) ;)
So i will stick with the GTX 680 Guys!
I will get the Inno 3D GTX 680 4GB DDR5, thats Final xD.

@Ballad, i know 1000W is too much, but i am just taking it for extra measure !
But the thing i dont know nothing about are Mobos !
Which Mobo should i get ?! Lets discuss that the most please.

Case is final also, i think, the commander MS-I recommended by Ballad + adding some LED fans later on.

Ok now from all the posts you wrote, i got confused a little bit!
Should i get an SSD for better loading? or not ?!
I was thinking of getting a normal 1TB HDD, for 90$ and the Transcend 256GB SSD for 242$. which will make like apprx 330$ without VAT, and im sure that you guys will start flooding posts that its way too much and expensive for not such an important thing.
Well, what DO you think?

And the ram, i will take what ballad suggested also, 12GB of Kingston ram, 3*4GB.

And the 2200VA ups.
Start commenting... :)

Khaled

dude, yll be running dual channel so get these

Kingston HyperX T1 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3T1K2/8GX for $74.00

no you wont need higher frequency and no you don't need more than 8 GB.

Get the SSD and a 2TB western digital green drive for storage. you will have enough storage, very fast system and loading times and it will be worth the money.

2TB WD20EARX 5400RPM SATAII 64MB $125.00 -WD green

Mobo i would suggest sticking to the first one you chose, the asrock 4 extreme, for 250$ its really good.

And one thing, careful about those extra watts its not always a good idea to have so much power on the edge of your system. Get what you NEED not more not less. Unless you thinking of dual GPU dont get the 1000W

AvoK95

Guys do note that Avolio does not want to OC anything.
He just wants a killer game rig that runs BF3 on 1080p.

I have spoken with him and we've concluded that he doesn't need an SSD either.

I think the i5 3570 with 8GB of Kingston Ram , 2TB WD Black drive and the 680 would be more than enough for him.

PowerPC

I have spoken with him and we've concluded that he doesn't need an SSD either.

i think that is a big mistake, an ssd will make a huge tangible difference to your daily pc use. Once you've used it you'd never consider living without one.
I don't know about Lebanon, but SSD prices have crashed the last 3 or 4 months everywhere, best time to grab bargains.

AvoK95

PowerPC wrote
I have spoken with him and we've concluded that he doesn't need an SSD either.
i think that is a big mistake, an ssd will make a huge tangible difference to your daily pc use. Once you've used it you'd never consider living without one.
I don't know about Lebanon, but SSD prices have crashed the last 3 or 4 months everywhere, best time to grab bargains.

He's just going to use it for gaming and he tends to use the SSD for game storage. Which is a waste since it will only effect loading time.

ballad

AVOlio wroteStart commenting... :)

3.4 GHz - i5-3570 6M/LGA1155 $226.00
Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 (DDR3) (LGA1155) Link $164.00
3x Kingston DDR3-1333 4GB 3x$22.00
ThermalTake VN400A1W2N Commander MS-I Link $55.00
Transcend TS128GSSD720 128GB SSD SATA III 2.5" SSD Drive internal $144.00
1TB ST1000DM003 7200RPM S-ATA III 64MB $90.00
Gigabyte GV-N670OC-2GD 1.0 GeForce GTX 670 2GB DDR5 $465 (new price it seems)
Thermaltake TPX-675M ToughPower XT 675W PSU $124.00
Gigabyte M6900 Precision Optical Gaming Mouse Link $25.00
Gigabyte K8100 Aivia Gaming Keyboard Link $71.00
_______________________________________________________
total 1575$

that's my final take on it and I took some decent amount of time thinking about it (2 minutes)

AVOlio

@Ballad I dont need any keybord or mouse. I have wireless K/B mouse already.
Ok now guys, tell me your ideas about this one:

3.4 GHz - i5-3570 6M/LGA1155 $226.00
Asus P8Z77-V SLI Ready (DDR3) (LGA1155) Link $247.00
Inno3D Geforce GTX 680 4GB DDR5 Dual w/TV $725.00
3x Kingston DDR3-1333 4GB 3x$22.00
ThermalTake VN400A1W2N Commander MS-I Link $55.00
2TB ST2000DM001 7200RPM S-ATA III 64MB $118.00
Cooler Master RS-700-PCAA-E3 eXtreme Power Plus 700W Link $93.00
Samsung SH-S222 22X DVDRW - Dual Layer Black SATA 20$

PCE 2200 VA UPS XP Series $348.00

Total of 1898$ exlucding VAT+shipping. = 2088$ Including VAT.

My only worry is the PSU, i found it too cheap.
Will it do the work ?!

Leave your comments about the rig guys.

AvoK95

AVOlio wrote@Ballad I dont need any keybord or mouse. I have wireless K/B mouse already.
Ok now guys, tell me your ideas about this one:

3.4 GHz - i5-3570 6M/LGA1155 $226.00
Asus P8Z77-V SLI Ready (DDR3) (LGA1155) Link $247.00
Inno3D Geforce GTX 680 4GB DDR5 Dual w/TV $725.00
3x Kingston DDR3-1333 4GB 3x$22.00
ThermalTake VN400A1W2N Commander MS-I Link $55.00
2TB ST2000DM001 7200RPM S-ATA III 64MB $118.00
Cooler Master RS-700-PCAA-E3 eXtreme Power Plus 700W Link $93.00
Samsung SH-S222 22X DVDRW - Dual Layer Black SATA 20$

PCE 2200 VA UPS XP Series $348.00

Total of 1898$ exlucding VAT+shipping. = 2088$ Including VAT.

My only worry is the PSU, i found it too cheap.
Will it do the work ?!

Leave your comments about the rig guys.

Few adjustments I would like to add.
Use the 2TB WD2002FAEX instead of the Seagate.
and use 2 or 4 sticks of ram to have Dual Channel (Get 2x8GB sticks or 4x4GB sticks).
Also, Gigabyte GV-N680OC-2GD 1.0 GeForce GTX 680 is 599+ VAT
You can also get a faster DVD RW like the LG GH24NS70-24X for only 3$ more.

PowerPC

AVOlio wrote@Ballad I dont need any keybord or mouse. I have wireless K/B mouse already.
Ok now guys, tell me your ideas about this one:

3.4 GHz - i5-3570 6M/LGA1155 $226.00
Asus P8Z77-V SLI Ready (DDR3) (LGA1155) Link $247.00
Inno3D Geforce GTX 680 4GB DDR5 Dual w/TV $725.00
3x Kingston DDR3-1333 4GB 3x$22.00
ThermalTake VN400A1W2N Commander MS-I Link $55.00
2TB ST2000DM001 7200RPM S-ATA III 64MB $118.00
Cooler Master RS-700-PCAA-E3 eXtreme Power Plus 700W Link $93.00
Samsung SH-S222 22X DVDRW - Dual Layer Black SATA 20$

PCE 2200 VA UPS XP Series $348.00

Total of 1898$ exlucding VAT+shipping. = 2088$ Including VAT.

My only worry is the PSU, i found it too cheap.
Will it do the work ?!

Leave your comments about the rig guys.

Are you planning on gaming on a monitor with a resolution higher than 1080p? if not, then having 4 GB on your 680 is throwing money away, zero difference to a 2 GB version.

and i would suggest getting 1600 DDR3 memory, it should be barely more than the 1333 version, and is the sweet spot for performance/price.

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