nuclearcat
Inspired by fire in beirut :)
Let's make Lebgeeks political movement and elect candidates :)
For example, very very draft rules:
1)You should respect all religions, and no preference for your own religion. This is very important, especially if we see expert sounding always position that will bring benefits for his religion, religious group - he should be fired. Thats only means neutralitity for religion, but very important respect all of them. It is better if for example expert groups will represent all religions equally. If some question for example very sensitive for specific religion and will force person to make decision based on religion, let's say alcohol, expert who is muslim should refrain from voting, instead of voting negative. At the same time other experts should respect this expert, and try to make voting, that will not hurt his religious feelings.
2)Use logic. Decision should be made by logic, and prefferable if each person, even he is expert in the field, should do consultation with expert group. No one-man-show.
3)Anticorruption and transparency. No family members or close friends assigned on positions by leader or expert. We should take examples from western companies rules. Take people to positions by their knowledge, and also N2, always consult with experts. Finance transparency, you and your relatives should declare their income and their big expenses. It is well known, when some minister take contract, and contractor gives bribes to his relatives. Minister can show his pockets empty, but their relatives buying airplanes.
4)No radical-minded people. Views should be peaceful, but capable to defend themself. Avoid accusations, and get people love by what you did, not how you put your competitors in shit(black PR).
5)And sure modern views, especially technology.
nuclearcat
Proposals :)
United movement
Color: White
Logo idea proposal:
nuclearcat
This prism can be represented as cedar... i guess photoshop will do the job :)
cmwic
i strongly support your idea it's important for lebgeeks to have an effect on lebanese daily life.
AvoK95
Great idea !
I'll support it.
xazbrat
Change number 2 to common sense instead of logic, and I am on board. I personally don't want to deal with a Spock 24 hours and would rather deal with someone with common sense. Of course, common sense is lacking in almost all political parties in every country, so if this were implemented, this would be a first in the world. :)
Zickar
I support this and and will help in anyway possible , I'm a Motion Graphics artist and I don't mind doing some spots to upload to youtube once this materializes , If needed feel free to email me (Because I don't recheck the posts regularly)
rtp
what is the point of this? i dont get it
like what is the goal?
arithma
To change the world. Elect me for president.
My goal is simple, dominate the world and spread awesomeness :)
jsaade
Very nice proposal and of course I am with it 100% but how to move forward from here?
monkey-d-luffy
nuclearcat wroteInspired by fire in beirut :)
Let's make Lebgeeks political movement and elect candidates :)
For example, very very draft rules:
1)You should respect all religions, and no preference for your own religion. This is very important, especially if we see expert sounding always position that will bring benefits for his religion, religious group - he should be fired. Thats only means neutralitity for religion, but very important respect all of them. It is better if for example expert groups will represent all religions equally. If some question for example very sensitive for specific religion and will force person to make decision based on religion, let's say alcohol, expert who is muslim should refrain from voting, instead of voting negative. At the same time other experts should respect this expert, and try to make voting, that will not hurt his religious feelings.
[trolling]Yeah we should respect every religion! We want holidays on EVERY "Religious day" for every religion on the planet [/trolling]
Now on a more serious basis I think this is a great idea and people should have the power (NO politicians are not people since they never care about us unless it's election period)
A new political movement at the service of ALL the people, from the farmer to the CEO. I found a slogan:
People Power
rtp
we need
Social Reclamation
I think the problem is the structure of society itself...
so by making a new political party we wont change anything... i think
in this monetary based society, i cant seem to grasp the idea of brotherhood, caring , sharing etc...
arithma
Money in itself is not evil. It's a catalyst and evolution of trade.
Evil lies in how concentration of power corrupts, when organizations become survival driven rather than service driven. Prime example: throwing away wheat when people are starving to preserve price margins.
How about an automated personless government?
How about a capitalist on the top, socialist on the bottom economy (up is more money and power)?
How about we dismiss religions altogether?
rtp
you need money to buy food, shelter, health care , education etc...
and we all know that everything is getting way more expensive...
so getting enough money to have your basic needs is becoming a challenge...
thus the increase in competition to gain the upper hand to gain money...
call it evil or not... but this really can't go on any longer... so much hunger and jobless people...
society as we know it is failing, wait let me fix that. Failed!
and i can't agree more with you arithma, you have government that will throw its wheat while people are dying of hunger, just to be in a level of power... add to that the ironic break down of gadget once their warranty is off... we living in a non-efficient society where the goal is to make money no matter what...
instead of working with each other... humanity are working against each other...
this shit got to go!
lorcan32
I for one definatley support this .... and am willing to do all in my power to help out :) , i very moderate movement with strong ideas and LOGICAL policies is thats we need . Equality for all religions is also a very important thing to consider . LETS DO THIS !!!
rtp
on a side note, i think if ever now is the best time to create a new political party...
since 8 and 14 have failed Miserably
but i still don't think politics is the main problem we should tackle... but i guess that's better then nothing...
if the whole world is having the same problem as we are... then something is wrong with the system itself...
belal
I am way more fanatic than the average person, and here is my view in short:
We need a nationalist Lebanese party, a party that see our neighboring countries, both of them, as potential threats... but also befriend them (Syria and yes, Israel) when our interests are granted.
I'd go further for a party that call for the disarmament of both Hezbollah and the 'Lebanese Army' and turning the people into a resistance Switzerland style.
Equality for all, civil marriage, religion within each house territory, priests and sheikhs deprived from the fortunes and all previous politicians dead... Someone like Ataturk, all in all.
Joe
Guys, this topic is getting nowhere.
There is absolutely no way Lebgeeks will ever endorse any political movement, even one started by its own members. We're not here to discuss politics. If you want to push this discussion forward, the people interested can make themselves known here and you can continue somewhere else.
So the old habit of the 24h time bomb will be applied. I'm closing this topic tomorrow same time. However, in the mean time if the discussion goes too much out of hand, we might close it prematurely.
Please act civilized.
Ayman
I'd go further for a party that call for the disarmament of both Hezbollah and the 'Lebanese Army' and turning the people into a resistance Switzerland style.
Switzerland is a totally different country, with a totally different culture, society, people history, neighbors, policies, economy, religions, and geographical location. The "army style" isn't for the sake of fashion, lots of variables affect it to become as it is. And no we don't have to be a Switzerland clone in the Middle East, we can't anyways.
shant
yeah...what is the goal ?