is it your up or down snr margin? weird, i have a lower snr margin {20 up but 8 down) but i only get like 2 or 3 CRC errors all day
wollyka wroteis it your up or down snr margin? weird, i have a lower snr margin {20 up but 8 down) but i only get like 2 or 3 CRC errors all day
15-16 up
10-11 down
Try to download big files using a download manager (not torrent) in order to determine for sure.
If I unplug my home phones, the CRC errors are reduced from thousands to ~100 in a few hours and I get no DC (the SNR margin used to randomly become 0.1 for like 10 seconds), can someone explain why this happens? Ogero told me:
"Please check your internal wiring with the assistance of your electrician. Replacing existing wiring and filters will solve the issue." but isn't the phone line the same as the DSL? How can it possibly be badly set up? My home is only one year old and the filters I have at my phones and modem are relatively new (and I bought them from amazon they had very good reviews).
Is this stable? Huge stutter in games like bf1/cs go
Mayyad wrote
TheLebGeek wroteHi all, I've complained before a lot that my internet keeps disconnecting and sometimes it is really unuseable. Ogero said it's not their issue since the problem is most probably from my internal wires. Today i got an electrician and we rewired the internal wires in the house to every single socket. Took more than 3 hours work. Finally, after all is done, i turn on my modem again and go to see the stats. Surprisingly, nothing changed. Hell maybe it became worse. The SNR margin is still almost exactly the same around 10.6 dB for download and 9.7 dB upload.
The Attentuation is still around 22 dB download and 12.3 dB upload. But i noticed something new that usually wasnt there now. It is Bit Errors. I have 48313 bit errors upstream but 0 downstream. What does this mean? Its been only 1hr 30min since they finished work and i turned on the modem. What can i do now, what options do i have left ...

Hi
Well i once read an article about dsl internal wiring, and if telephone line is connected to many sockets this will add noise to your line.
Eleminate all the other sockets and if you need more than one handset in house use multiple wireless handsets connected to the base which is connected to dsl filter output.
Make sure that the telephone line is away from any electricity source.
That's what the electrician told me and we eliminated all the sockets that I didn't use. Only kept 4 sockets out of 8. As for the rewiring for the people who were asking, there is one main phone line that comes into the house and then splits to many lines for all sockets. We changed 4 wires for the sockets that i usually use and the other 4 he cancelled them. No breaking walls or anything, just pulling the wires from the conduits they are passing in while inserting the new phone line. Anyways all this turned out to be useless as it didnt effect anything in my line stats compared with my stats before all this was done. And i still have internet disconnections. I called him again and told him that, he said he will come monday again to see what can we do. I think we should now change the wire from the house to the ogero box right? Other than that there are no other options?
Aly wrote
TheLebGeek wroteHi all, I've complained before a lot that my internet keeps disconnecting and sometimes it is really unuseable. Ogero said it's not their issue since the problem is most probably from my internal wires. Today i got an electrician and we rewired the internal wires in the house to every single socket. Took more than 3 hours work. Finally, after all is done, i turn on my modem again and go to see the stats. Surprisingly, nothing changed. Hell maybe it became worse. The SNR margin is still almost exactly the same around 10.6 dB for download and 9.7 dB upload.
The Attentuation is still around 22 dB download and 12.3 dB upload. But i noticed something new that usually wasnt there now. It is Bit Errors. I have 48313 bit errors upstream but 0 downstream. What does this mean? Its been only 1hr 30min since they finished work and i turned on the modem. What can i do now, what options do i have left ...
You could have connected the modem to the Ogero main box in your building reception or electricity room, if the SNR and Att stay the same then you know the problem is from Ogero and not your wiring.
Any idea how can i plug the modem? Shall i get a wire that has copper exposed from one side and connected to the modem from the other side and connect it? Also how can i know which line is mine in the box, its all mixed up down there
Dunno why but every mornings till 2pm in working days the ADSL connection has several random reboots, in the afternoon and night none?
Is Ogero still working in Beirut's centrals?
Guys after all the new speed upgrade is it normal that my line mode is fixed to ADSL_G.dmt ?? I am subscribed to IDM by the way .
wollyka wrote
kfc wrote
kfc wroteSo in episode 1 of the "How much speed can my landline handle?" serie, Ogero told me by email in May that I live 800 metres away from an active cabinet and that my speed can reach up to 23 megabits per second.

In episode 2, the kachef done at my centrale this month showed that my line can only handle 6 megabits per second. When I emailed Ogero again regarding this, they backtracked on their first email, apologized to me regarding wrong results they gave me at the beginning and confirmed that my line can only take 6 megabits per second without providing any extra clarification or justification ( knowing that my modem displays the following statistics: maximum bandwidth = 17500 kbps attenuation 14 and sn margin 23 for a synchronisation speed of 4 megabits per second)

Episode 3 of the serie happened today as I received this morning a call from an Ogero technician informing me that he needs to pass by my house to perform a VDSL eligibility test. He brought with him an instrument, connected it to my line next to the modem, programed it to VDSL2 17A and performed the test. Results were as follow:
- For a sn margin of 7, download speed was 26 megabits per second and upload speed was 4 megabits per second.
- when the Sn margin was increased to 10, the speeds dropped to 20 and 3.

Again these practical results came very low given the stats that my modem is displaying and the distance that separates me from the active cabinet. They are more in line with the practical ADSL2+ speed of 6 megabits per second that the latest kachef at the centrale showed...

I asked the man if he could do a similar test for adsl2+, he said that he cannot do it... but he told me that in my region I can easily have more than 10 megabits per second. I told him that the centrale told me that my maximum speed is 6 megabits per second, he asked me to ignore them because they don't know anything (chou baddak bel central, ma bya3rfo!!!)

And the mystery continues...
Episode 4

I was switched today to open speed from Ogero side. I am synchronizing at 15000 kbps with a sn margin of 10 but I am still limited to 4 mbps by IDM till my next recharge in 1 week.

What actual speed do you think I will get? Haha
You will be capped at 10 Mbps or if you are lucky (like me lol) you will get 12 Mbps max. (my sync is 15000 kbps but i am nit getting more than 1.4 MB/s download)

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!



Download speed is 1.4-1.6 MB/s

My stats now

DSL Type: G.992.5 annex A
Maximum Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 947 / 17.484
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 947 / 15.886
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 10,0 / 13,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 17,5 / 10,0
kfc wrote
wollyka wrote
kfc wrote
Episode 4

I was switched today to open speed from Ogero side. I am synchronizing at 15000 kbps with a sn margin of 10 but I am still limited to 4 mbps by IDM till my next recharge in 1 week.

What actual speed do you think I will get? Haha
You will be capped at 10 Mbps or if you are lucky (like me lol) you will get 12 Mbps max. (my sync is 15000 kbps but i am nit getting more than 1.4 MB/s download)

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6618324358.png

Download speed is 1.4-1.6 MB/s

My stats now

DSL Type: G.992.5 annex A
Maximum Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 947 / 17.484
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 947 / 15.886
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 10,0 / 13,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 17,5 / 10,0
good enjoy ,but like always IDM is capping , you have around 16 Mbps , you are getting 13 Mbps. I have 15 Mbps and i am getting 12.4 Mbps. The difference is not from overhead since while i was at 8 Mbps before the upgrade i was getting like 7.5 to 7.7 Mbps not 6 Mbps, it seems that they fix the speed at 80-85% your rate)
do you still have problems with torrents?
wollyka wrote
kfc wrote
wollyka wrote You will be capped at 10 Mbps or if you are lucky (like me lol) you will get 12 Mbps max. (my sync is 15000 kbps but i am nit getting more than 1.4 MB/s download)

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6618324358.png

Download speed is 1.4-1.6 MB/s

My stats now

DSL Type: G.992.5 annex A
Maximum Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 947 / 17.484
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 947 / 15.886
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 10,0 / 13,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 17,5 / 10,0
good enjoy ,but like always IDM is capping , you have around 16 Mbps , you are getting 13 Mbps. I have 15 Mbps and i am getting 12.4 Mbps. The difference is not from overhead since while i was at 8 Mbps before the upgrade i was getting like 7.5 to 7.7 Mbps not 6 Mbps, it seems that they fix the speed at 80-85% your rate)
do you still have problems with torrents?
no man there is no cap. i have always gotten 80-85% of my speeds even when i was on 1,2 and 4 mbps!

on 4 mbps for example, i never got more than 3.4-3.5


and yes this problem is not solved!
kfc wrote no man there is no cap. i have always gotten 80-85% of my speeds even when i was on 1,2 and 4 mbps!

on 4 mbps for example, i never got more than 3.4-3.5


and yes this problem is not solved!
Before I requested OS, I used to get 3.4-3.5 but after that (beginning of September), I'm getting ~4.0 while waiting for OS tomorrow (beginning of next month cycle)
GreenM wrote
kfc wrote no man there is no cap. i have always gotten 80-85% of my speeds even when i was on 1,2 and 4 mbps!

on 4 mbps for example, i never got more than 3.4-3.5


and yes this problem is not solved!
Before I requested OS, I used to get 3.4-3.5 but after that (beginning of September), I'm getting ~4.0 while waiting for OS tomorrow (beginning of next month cycle)
Same thing happened with me. It means that ogero opened the speed from their side while idm will open it when new cycle starts

Post please your stats and new speed when you get it. Ok?
Question: does using a shielded cable help against electromagnetic interference ? My electrician is telling me that the interference (which is coming from an inverter (some kind of motor thing)) is actually affecting the modem and that it can't affect the wire.

But as far as I've learned, electromagnetic interference CAN affect data travelling through a cable. Am I right ?
How come I get a speed of 13 megabits per second if I choose a speedtest server in Lebanon France Britain Germany but the speed drops to 8 for the US and 4 for Australia?

what is the practical implication of this?
kfc wrote
wollyka wrote
kfc wrote

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6618324358.png

Download speed is 1.4-1.6 MB/s

My stats now

DSL Type: G.992.5 annex A
Maximum Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 947 / 17.484
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 947 / 15.886
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 10,0 / 13,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 17,5 / 10,0
good enjoy ,but like always IDM is capping , you have around 16 Mbps , you are getting 13 Mbps. I have 15 Mbps and i am getting 12.4 Mbps. The difference is not from overhead since while i was at 8 Mbps before the upgrade i was getting like 7.5 to 7.7 Mbps not 6 Mbps, it seems that they fix the speed at 80-85% your rate)
do you still have problems with torrents?
no man there is no cap. i have always gotten 80-85% of my speeds even when i was on 1,2 and 4 mbps!

on 4 mbps for example, i never got more than 3.4-3.5


and yes this problem is not solved!
Try downloading large files using download accelerators (not torrents) and see if the problem happens.
Guys, will we expect an increase in the monthly quota after the new agreement with Cyta Cyprus as announced by the minister of telecommunications ??
I doubt, there was upgrades on hold for ISPs, because seems Ogero reached max capacity.
So its just matching increased consumption, but price for govt is even more, they will have to pay for more bandwidth.
nuclearcat wroteI doubt, there was upgrades on hold for ISPs, because seems Ogero reached max capacity.
So its just matching increased consumption, but price for govt is even more, they will have to pay for more bandwidth.
Well i guess we should expect new plans then, since fttc project will commence as per the minister today
Last week I saw Ogero laying down fiber wires underground along a road not too far from where Iive, and Mr. Imad in a way confirmed what I saw by posting a pic of the workers in the same road saying "Fiber deployment in the south", sadly I can't tell if it's for FTTC or FTTH or FTTB for banks/schools/etc..

but in any case, seeing this action happen in person, and reading about the new incoming international capacity upgrades coming from Cyprus, it's good to see that work is being done and things are moving forward bit by bit!
So today i called the IDM sales team and they said that my speed can't reach more than 4mbps even with open speed!


My line stats are the following!

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And i forgot to mention that sometimes my max rate can hit around 20 Mbps! is this false advertising?
Mom wrote And i forgot to mention that sometimes my max rate can hit around 20 Mbps! is this false advertising?
Best you can do - switch to Ogero in such cases.

You can tell them how their assumptions on 4Mbps based, after they answer (most probably they will tell some bullshit), you can tell your SNR and attenuation are enough for 10Mbps at worst times, and you can provide technical proof. But it wont lead you anywhere ,they might be stubborn and ignorant on this subject, they wont tell u straight reasons why they limited speed.
nuclearcat wrote
Mom wrote And i forgot to mention that sometimes my max rate can hit around 20 Mbps! is this false advertising?
Best you can do - switch to Ogero in such cases.

You can tell them how their assumptions on 4Mbps based, after they answer (most probably they will tell some bullshit), you can tell your SNR and attenuation are enough for 10Mbps at worst times, and you can provide technical proof. But it wont lead you anywhere ,they might be stubborn and ignorant on this subject, they wont tell u straight reasons why they limited speed.
I am sometimes getting 24 on SNR so it's good enough for like 10 mbps at least :) thanks for your Reply
You should rely on lowest value, cause if your parameters will drop, it will force modem to resync, this means disconnection on some modems.
Mom wroteSo today i called the IDM sales team and they said that my speed can't reach more than 4mbps even with open speed!


My line stats are the following!

https://i.imgur.com/G3QPwI2.png

And i forgot to mention that sometimes my max rate can hit around 20 Mbps! is this false advertising?
I am with ogero and line attenuation 44 and getting sync rate 9220 kbps so I advice you to switch to ogero and with such attenuation I think you can get easily 16mbps if you improve your snr a litle
Mom wroteSo today i called the IDM sales team and they said that my speed can't reach more than 4mbps even with open speed!


My line stats are the following!

https://i.imgur.com/G3QPwI2.png

And i forgot to mention that sometimes my max rate can hit around 20 Mbps! is this false advertising?
I am with IDM and my stats so you should get better speeds (10 at least)

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 9,4 / 14,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 23,2 / 9,4
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 766 / 14.998
kfc wrote
GreenM wrote
kfc wrote no man there is no cap. i have always gotten 80-85% of my speeds even when i was on 1,2 and 4 mbps!

on 4 mbps for example, i never got more than 3.4-3.5


and yes this problem is not solved!
Before I requested OS, I used to get 3.4-3.5 but after that (beginning of September), I'm getting ~4.0 while waiting for OS tomorrow (beginning of next month cycle)
Same thing happened with me. It means that ogero opened the speed from their side while idm will open it when new cycle starts

Post please your stats and new speed when you get it. Ok?
Some of the stats I have been getting tonight: (Bandwidth / Attenuation / SNR Margin)

10:30pm
-------
Down 8804 kbps / 36.0 dB / 13.6 dB
Up 1020 kbps / 23.4 dB / 12.2 dB

10:45pm
-------
Down 9124 kbps / 36.0 dB / 10.2 dB
Up 1020 kbps / 23.4 dB / 12.8 dB

10:55pm
-------
Down 8932 kbps / 36.0 dB / 10.3 dB
Up 1020 kbps / 23.4 dB / 12.7 dB

11:00pm
------
Down 9172 kbps / 36.0 dB / 10.1 dB
Up 1020 kbps / 23.4 dB / 12.4 dB

The best I was able to get on speed test since I got OS:
GreenM wrote
kfc wrote
GreenM wrote Before I requested OS, I used to get 3.4-3.5 but after that (beginning of September), I'm getting ~4.0 while waiting for OS tomorrow (beginning of next month cycle)
Same thing happened with me. It means that ogero opened the speed from their side while idm will open it when new cycle starts

Post please your stats and new speed when you get it. Ok?
Some of the stats I have been getting tonight: (Bandwidth / Attenuation / SNR Margin)

10:30pm
-------
Down 8804 kbps / 36.0 dB / 13.6 dB
Up 1020 kbps / 23.4 dB / 12.2 dB

10:45pm
-------
Down 9124 kbps / 36.0 dB / 10.2 dB
Up 1020 kbps / 23.4 dB / 12.8 dB

10:55pm
-------
Down 8932 kbps / 36.0 dB / 10.3 dB
Up 1020 kbps / 23.4 dB / 12.7 dB

11:00pm
------
Down 9172 kbps / 36.0 dB / 10.1 dB
Up 1020 kbps / 23.4 dB / 12.4 dB

The best I was able to get on speed test since I got OS:
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6624826685.png
your speed looks great for your attenuation. and it is impressive you seem to be getting a speed that is close to 95% of your bandwith. I get 85% of it at most... (speed of 12.5-13.5 mbps for a bandwith of 15-16mbps)
GreenM wrote
kfc wrote
GreenM wrote Before I requested OS, I used to get 3.4-3.5 but after that (beginning of September), I'm getting ~4.0 while waiting for OS tomorrow (beginning of next month cycle)
Same thing happened with me. It means that ogero opened the speed from their side while idm will open it when new cycle starts

Post please your stats and new speed when you get it. Ok?
Some of the stats I have been getting tonight: (Bandwidth / Attenuation / SNR Margin)

10:30pm
-------
Down 8804 kbps / 36.0 dB / 13.6 dB
Up 1020 kbps / 23.4 dB / 12.2 dB

10:45pm
-------
Down 9124 kbps / 36.0 dB / 10.2 dB
Up 1020 kbps / 23.4 dB / 12.8 dB

10:55pm
-------
Down 8932 kbps / 36.0 dB / 10.3 dB
Up 1020 kbps / 23.4 dB / 12.7 dB

11:00pm
------
Down 9172 kbps / 36.0 dB / 10.1 dB
Up 1020 kbps / 23.4 dB / 12.4 dB

The best I was able to get on speed test since I got OS:
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6624826685.png
what is you ADSL Modulation?
Mom wroteSo today i called the IDM sales team and they said that my speed can't reach more than 4mbps even with open speed!


My line stats are the following!
The same thing happened to me. Tell them that you talked to an engineer and that he told you that your SNR is high enough to handle at least 8-10 mbps. Talk to them with technical words and let them understand that you know what you r talking about. And finally tell them (3a mas2ouliyteh). They ll try to be stubborn at first but they will accept eventually.
At least that's what happened with me.
Can anyone provide some information on the Fiber optic in Hamra/Ashrafye that was announced by Ogero ?

Is this for real ? Or just like the last announcement where it needed an extra month before actual possibility of installment and implementation ?
Toufic wroteCan anyone provide some information on the Fiber optic in Hamra/Ashrafye that was announced by Ogero ?

Is this for real ? Or just like the last announcement where it needed an extra month before actual possibility of installment and implementation ?

Yes Real , already available at Audi Spot - ABC Verdun . Just Send an Email to thepeople@ogero.com.lb for a feasibility study and quick feedback mentioning your exact location. They are very responsive. They already have FTTC in these areas and they can do FTTH on application per application bases.
Tech Guru wrote
Toufic wroteCan anyone provide some information on the Fiber optic in Hamra/Ashrafye that was announced by Ogero ?

Is this for real ? Or just like the last announcement where it needed an extra month before actual possibility of installment and implementation ?

Yes Real , already available at Audi Spot - ABC Verdun . Just Send an Email to thepeople@ogero.com.lb for a feasibility study and quick feedback mentioning your exact location. They are very responsive. They already have FTTC in these areas and they can do FTTH on application per application bases.


Are you sure about the email, i just sent one and it says the domain is not valid..
slight offtopic
meanwhile in russia

390 RUB = 6.767 USD
100Mbit unlimited internet, Wi-Fi router included, 100 TV channels, TV STB included
Can be upgraded to 500Mbps
GeorgesHanna wrote
Mom wroteSo today i called the IDM sales team and they said that my speed can't reach more than 4mbps even with open speed!


My line stats are the following!

https://i.imgur.com/G3QPwI2.png

And i forgot to mention that sometimes my max rate can hit around 20 Mbps! is this false advertising?
I am with ogero and line attenuation 44 and getting sync rate 9220 kbps so I advice you to switch to ogero and with such attenuation I think you can get easily 16mbps if you improve your snr a litle
Bro, how can you get such speed with a line attenuation of 44 ??
Mylo89 wrote
GeorgesHanna wrote
Mom wroteSo today i called the IDM sales team and they said that my speed can't reach more than 4mbps even with open speed!


My line stats are the following!

https://i.imgur.com/G3QPwI2.png

And i forgot to mention that sometimes my max rate can hit around 20 Mbps! is this false advertising?
I am with ogero and line attenuation 44 and getting sync rate 9220 kbps so I advice you to switch to ogero and with such attenuation I think you can get easily 16mbps if you improve your snr a litle
Bro, how can you get such speed with a line attenuation of 44 ??
on thomson it sync at 8mbps but with tp-link it can sync at such speed
GeorgesHanna wrote
Mylo89 wrote
GeorgesHanna wrote I am with ogero and line attenuation 44 and getting sync rate 9220 kbps so I advice you to switch to ogero and with such attenuation I think you can get easily 16mbps if you improve your snr a litle
Bro, how can you get such speed with a line attenuation of 44 ??
on thomson it sync at 8mbps but with tp-link it can sync at such speed
i have a thomson tg585 v7 and on adsl2+ my attenuation is 43 with snr of 11 yet the max speed i can get is 5 Mbps, so what do you advise me to do to get the same speed as yours ?