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yasamoka

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

my advice, get a router that is compatible with DDWRT www.dd-wrt.com/ or tomatousb http://tomatousb.org/, although i'm not sure if tomatousb has firmware for a adsl router.

anyone using ddwrt here?

DD-WRT is limited with respect to OpenWRT. It may be more user friendly, but it most probably has less functionality.

I have already mentioned this. OpenWRT is simply more advanced.

A router that supports DD-WRT should probably support OpenWRT, but CPU and RAM need to be checked in OpenWRT support list.

AvoK95

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

There is no need to install a router OS to have a PC as a modem.
You can use a PCI Modem Card and configure the settings in windows, then use a NIC LAN Card to get the connection from that PC to another PC.

Dirol

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

I was always wondering I can make a DSL router out of a pc.
Ok a router is possible with too many solutions, the most famous one is Mikrotik routeros.
But what about a DSL router? hmm...

You can get ADSL+Wireless Router from D-link or Linksys. If you look @ posts #8,9 you will see two suggested ADSL+Wireless Routers.

Last edited by Dirol (February 2 2012)

yasamoka

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

There is no need to install a router OS to have a PC as a modem.
You can use a PCI Modem Card and configure the settings in windows, then use a NIC LAN Card to get the connection from that PC to another PC.

That does not bode so well in Windows. Trust me, I have searched pretty much the whole internet looking for a solution to route using Windows. Max you can do is ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). & EDIT: Limited routing using NAT32 & more basic software for networking and internet sharing through wireless adapter.

Can the PCI Modem Card receive a DSL signal?

Last edited by yasamoka (February 2 2012)

AvoK95

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

Can the PCI Modem Card receive a DSL signal?

Yes , I can't see why not

yasamoka

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

Can the PCI Modem Card receive a DSL signal?

Yes , I can't see why not

Shouldn't it be able to decode the signal? Last thing I knew, modems were max capable of supporting dial-up internet.

m_zeid

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

How can any router cause perceptible lag if he's running an Xbox 360, which is most probably wired?

Actually it's wireless.
I recommended this modem to him because it will give better pings then those crappy "SpeedTouch" Thomsons

^^Definitely true, that.

@m_zeid: very interesting question! We should research this.

You see, the problem with running a PC as a router is that it consumes too much power at idle compared with a router. Only netbooks can come close to a router's power consumption, and those are usually limited with their motherboards, etc...

The more you want to save, you would want to run an old PC as a router (probably an obsolete PC), which would mean power efficiency is practically low. The running costs of such a PC would easily be higher than the cost of a premium router (with OpenWRT, for example), most probably even in 1-2 years.

The primary reason why it is recommended to use a PC as a router is when you've got some file-sharing to do, or some complex bandwidth shaping, etc...where the router's CPU / RAM is simply insufficient. But even for most tasks at home, a PC file server, and a router for better connectivity, is recommended over a purely PC router.

Just my 2 cents.

EDIT: However, if RouterOS can be run in a virtual machine, with a minimal amount of RAM allocated to it, on a 24/7 PC, it would be an amazing idea, I think.

yes routeros can be run over virtual machine, many people did that but not me,for now.

Most of the Internet cable guys prefer using pc router over an actual one, mainly for hardware cost. And all of them are old machines. I'm planning to do one in the near future, I will do it on an intel  pentuim 1 pc.
I don't think that the power consumption will be that problem, I like modding PCs and i think that we can easily remove all the fans from the pc and maybe we can use an old IDE laptop HDD.

I have researshed ALOT about what I've said and found nothing. About "Can a PC router deal with DSL connction?"
note that I'm speaking of a complete router build with no other external modem. According to some sources, there were some PCI DSL modem cards, but they stopped making them. But now we have PCI cards for phone jack line RJ11, but the question still, can it take DSL connection out of it?

The main reasons for doing that, first i changed a lot of dsl routers and modems, they get too hot! So I think a PC can take the load easily. The second reason is to cache the web for a more reliable connection.
maybe i should start researching that again :)

m_zeid

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

There is no need to install a router OS to have a PC as a modem.
You can use a PCI Modem Card and configure the settings in windows, then use a NIC LAN Card to get the connection from that PC to another PC.

no bro, you have to have a router, since you need NAT DHCP and firewall and possibly other things.

Personally i can't find PCI dsl modem cards in the market and neither online!!

m_zeid

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

I was always wondering I can make a DSL router out of a pc.
Ok a router is possible with too many solutions, the most famous one is Mikrotik routeros.
But what about a DSL router? hmm...

You can get ADSL+Wireless Router from D-link or Linksys. If you look @ posts #8,9 you will see two suggested ADSL+Wireless Routers.

dude the whole point was to make it out of pc

m_zeid

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

Can the PCI Modem Card receive a DSL signal?

Yes , I can't see why not

I don't think so, I've searched that and found the opposite.
those modems are for telephony services, mostly fax.

waelt

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

i recently bought the linksys Wag120N but having problem setting it up , im a cyberia subscriber , it dosent connect to the dsl server or if it does it drops after a couple of minutes, anybody had a similar problem ?

AvoK95

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

i recently bought the linksys Wag120N but having problem setting it up , im a cyberia subscriber , it dosent connect to the dsl server or if it does it drops after a couple of minutes, anybody had a similar problem ?

I own that router too.
Follow this tutorial but instead use @cyberia.net.lb at the end of your username

Let me know if you need any help.

waelt

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

thank you for the help Avok but can u give me a more detailed instructions im lost as how to start? which ip i need to calculate?

AvoK95

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

thank you for the help Avok but can u give me a more detailed instructions im lost as how to start? which ip i need to calculate?

No need to calculate anything.
Just go to 192.168.1.1
Then copy the setting from the images provided in the link.
Turn your modem of and on and you're done.

H.S

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

hmmm what do you think about this one? am thinking of getting it is it good? or you think i should get a small dsl model and link it to an external router?
http://home.cisco.com/en-apac/products/gateways/x3000

Can anyone tell me where can i find this Linksys x3000? any retailers here in Lebanon?

I am willing to replace the Thomson with this one since it's better for online gaming, i am currently using it to the PS3 as it gives a slightly better ping, i know it depends on the ISP, but if it helps even a little bit i am going to replace it with the Linksys x3000.

yasamoka

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

Can anyone tell me where can i find this Linksys x3000? any retailers here in Lebanon?

http://www.pcandparts.com/price.htm

It's a hot deal for this week.

H.S

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

Can anyone tell me where can i find this Linksys x3000? any retailers here in Lebanon?

http://www.pcandparts.com/price.htm

It's a hot deal for this week.

Thanks, i'll place an order asap.

shant

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

from my experience tp link is pretty much solid,maybe a bit bad on wifi signal but i haven't tried lynksis before so i don't know if the wifi of those have better signals or not, or maybe im just expecting too much out of routers to power up the whole house on 100% signal? yasamoka probably knows if im expecting overkill :P, but yeah, i do have problems with the router cutting the internet when there are heavy lightnings,maybe its because im using cat5 and its not grounded? no idea along with my screen, tv, and other equipment..they all malfunction for a few seconds, i think its due to i live near the sea in a valley on a hill at an open area ? emp im guessing, as for software on tp link routers, i didn't find it complete noob proof, but it seems to be user friendly and works as it should...well at least the basic stuff that i tried

edit:the tutorial on the sodetel website tells you to set wifi security as WEP, seriously?

Last edited by shant (May 2 2012)

shant

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

Thanks, i'll place an order asap.

can you let me know your thoughts on it after you play around with it a little bit ? im thinking of getting it as well

H.S

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

shant

Sure, i read a lot of reviews about it a while ago, Linksys won't disappoint for sure, i'll run some tests on it and provide you with the details soon.

Dirol

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

Thanks, i'll place an order asap.

can you let me know your thoughts on it after you play around with it a little bit ? im thinking of getting it as well

Just keep up with well-known solid brands like D-Link, Linksys, Netgear and regarding Wifi signal speed and coverage, you should consider Wireless N technology, Not G.

The Linksys x3000 is a wireless N router.

Last edited by Dirol (May 7 2012)

Dirol

Re: ADSL +2 wifi routers help needed

i recently bought the linksys Wag120N but having problem setting it up , im a cyberia subscriber , it dosent connect to the dsl server or if it does it drops after a couple of minutes, anybody had a similar problem ?

1-Try to update its firmware version. Check if it includes automatic update within it or manually but you have to be careful of its Revision Version and etc... as you might know any incorrect firmware upgrade may brick and render the router unusable.

2-Even though it maybe irrelated, but try to: Disbale DHCP Server then reconnect the ADSL connection. If the problems is gone then Enable the DHCP Server back and see if it goes stable...

Last edited by Dirol (May 7 2012)