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Chup

Wireless routers coverage

Hey there,
I have a linksys dir-300.
My appartment is 130 squared meters.
My parent's is 118 aquared meters.( right next to mine )
The router is in the middle of both ( at the wall seperating both appartments )
Coverage isn't enough, i need double the coverage the linksys is providing.
Suggestions for another model that has double the coverage ?
Cheers

m0ei

Re: Wireless routers coverage

Get another router same as the one you have and create a wireless bridge or AP client between both ? One router in your apartment that can reach the other router in the other apartment.
Not sure though if your router supports wireless bridging, but I guess it does. Google it anyway.

Chup

Re: Wireless routers coverage

I could go with a repeater but i don't want to.
I want one router to cover both. Double the coverage of the dir-300

AvoK95

Re: Wireless routers coverage

Isn't the DIR-300 a D-Link router ?
Anyway, you can remove the antena , and extend the cable and install two antenas.

Or you can buy a wireless repeater.

There is also a choice of buying a Wireless USB adapter that has more coverage than the built in adapter.

Or just get a router that has extented range covering.

Chup

Re: Wireless routers coverage

Or just get a router that has extented range covering

Such as :D ?

AvoK95

Re: Wireless routers coverage

Or just get a router that has extented range covering

Such as :D ?

TL-WR841N

yasamoka

Re: Wireless routers coverage

Avo, I don't think that one is enough.
Chup, if you're willing to pay, go for the TP-Link TL-WR2543ND for $100. Or the TP-Link TL-WR1043ND ($60). I recommend the latter, that is if they have the same wireless range (I'm guessing they do). The main difference lies in that the former supports 450mbps, 3-stream wireless connections. If you have no 450mbps capable of receiving 3 streams (most devices max out at 2 or even 1. Only some high-end wireless chips in laptops go to 450mbps), go for the former.

Chup

Re: Wireless routers coverage

No no it's basically to connect my ps and a couple of laptops ( not high end ones ) at my parent's crib.
So the wrt1043 ?

shant

Re: Wireless routers coverage

just get an extender, or a bigger antenna if you want to pay less

Chup

Re: Wireless routers coverage

just get an extender, or a bigger antenna if you want to pay less

That works ?

AvoK95

Re: Wireless routers coverage

Your router's antenna is not changeable.

Why not just get a regular everyday 30$ router and separate  your wireless SSID's between your parents house and your house ?
You can set one router at your house and another at your parents and connect them both via Ethernet cable.
Easiest and cheapest thing to do so far.

If you don't want to separate the  networks get a regular router and flash your current one with DD-WRT and set it as a repeater for the other router making your wireless coverage bigger.

shant

Re: Wireless routers coverage

just get an extender, or a bigger antenna if you want to pay less

That works ?

yeah sure, but i have no idea if a bigger antenna can be extended with a long wire without loosing signal, as for the extender, its the perfect job, and about using 2 routers, ive never tried it but i think if you do that you will get 2 separate access points, unless you can combine those 2 routers somehow and make them work together as one access point

edit: right, your antenna is not changeable

Last edited by shant (May 14 2012)

Chup

Re: Wireless routers coverage

Why not just get a regular everyday 30$ router and separate  your wireless SSID's between your parents house and your house ?

Here's the scenario.
I have the speedtouch DSL modem, connected to the D-link wireless router, which provides wifi coverage.
Both of them+ PS3 connected to UPS.
UPS is in my room, cause the PS3 is there.
And i want the modem and Router in my room, so that i'd connect them to the UPS ( i really don't want to buy another UPS )
If i do that , it covers my whole apartment but not my parent's.
If i put the router in the living room , my parents get the minimal coverage .
And there's nothing but one wall separating the 2 houses.
I thought of getting the edimax ew7209 Access point, use it as a repeater ( to cover my parent's house ) and Question is will that cover it if i put it in the living room ?
Does it have more coverage than my D-link ?

Edit : nevermind i'm getting the Access point, i'll find a way to get coverage there with it
Thanks guys !

Last edited by Chup (May 14 2012)

Abbabbj

Re: Wireless routers coverage

I have a BELKIN F5D8235 extended range N+ router for sale(still new used for a week or less) 40$
http://www.belkin.com/support/article/? … 407&scid=0

I have also EDIMAX EW-7303HPn high power 150 Mbps wireless outdoor range extender /access point with build-in 9 dBi antenna (you could use as a router with 600mW transmission power will cover easily both apartments)
brand new not used at all with warranty 85$

Last edited by Abbabbj (May 14 2012)

Chup

Re: Wireless routers coverage

That sounds like a sweet deal.
It's a no for now but i'll message you in case i'd go for it.

Abbabbj

Re: Wireless routers coverage

no problem at all anytime you want,
by the way you can use aluminium foil to direct your coverage

yasamoka

Re: Wireless routers coverage

Chup, I don't recommend you go with a repeater. A repeater halves the connection speed for its connected clients because what it's sending and receiving are identical (hence repeater). You wouldn't want to halve WiFi bandwidth, no way.

Shant, yes they can be combined. They would both broadcast the same SSID with the same encryption type and encryption key. The caveat, though, is that the connected wireless device has to support inter-access point handover, if it is moving from the spot of the 1st router to the other and dropping connection with the first and establishing a connection with the second. Else, it will lose the connection, then pick it up. This shouldn't be a problem for stationary items.

Other than that, Chup, can you extend an ethernet wire to a place close enough to where you want, and get good range? You could pass Power over Ethernet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_ethernet).

Last edited by yasamoka (May 14 2012)

Chup

Re: Wireless routers coverage

Chup, I don't recommend you go with a repeater. A repeater halves the connection speed for its connected clients because what it's sending and receiving are identical (hence repeater). You wouldn't want to halve WiFi bandwidth, no way.

Wait wait wait...
the connected client ( my parent's house ) will have half the speed ?

yasamoka

Re: Wireless routers coverage

Chup, I don't recommend you go with a repeater. A repeater halves the connection speed for its connected clients because what it's sending and receiving are identical (hence repeater). You wouldn't want to halve WiFi bandwidth, no way.

Wait wait wait...
the connected client ( my parent's house ) will have half the speed ?

Let me rephrase that, half the throughput. If your wireless repeater can put out 2MB/s, then it can send and receive 1MB/s simultaneously (well not even simultaneously, WiFi connections seem to be half-duplex. You can only send, or receive, at a time), then you will have 1MB/s max. Which means an internet connection of 8mbits can max out such a wireless link.

I don't recommend you go through it because the state of wireless being half-duplex ALONE may induce delays which switching between send and receive. The induced delay may be a few milliseconds, but if you are dealing with wireless connections whose connection strength you do not yet know (or are unsure of), your performance may suffer more with distance. With WiFi, distance makes it suffer enough.

EDIT: If you want a repeater, then buy 2 TP-Link TL-WR1043ND and make one a repeater on a 300mbps (theoretical, never practical, of course) connection. Then you would have 150mbps from that repeater, which is already close to, if not higher than the DIR-600 you have, I'm guessing. Yet I am unsure if a 300mbps connection will actually double over 150mbps. Maybe it does, because it uses 2 streams, but research has to be done to confirm.

Last edited by yasamoka (May 14 2012)

Chup

Re: Wireless routers coverage

Will I suffer from any issue ?
If i'm connected to the D-link router not the Repeater ?

yasamoka

Re: Wireless routers coverage

Will I suffer from any issue ?
If i'm connected to the D-link router not the Repeater ?

No, you will not.

AvoK95

Re: Wireless routers coverage

Why not just get a regular everyday 30$ router and separate  your wireless SSID's between your parents house and your house ?

Here's the scenario.
I have the speedtouch DSL modem, connected to the D-link wireless router, which provides wifi coverage.
Both of them+ PS3 connected to UPS.
UPS is in my room, cause the PS3 is there.
And i want the modem and Router in my room, so that i'd connect them to the UPS ( i really don't want to buy another UPS )
If i do that , it covers my whole apartment but not my parent's.
If i put the router in the living room , my parents get the minimal coverage .
And there's nothing but one wall separating the 2 houses.
I thought of getting the edimax ew7209 Access point, use it as a repeater ( to cover my parent's house ) and Question is will that cover it if i put it in the living room ?
Does it have more coverage than my D-link ?

Edit : nevermind i'm getting the Access point, i'll find a way to get coverage there with it
Thanks guys !

If you don't want to use 3 devices , just get a new DSL Modem that has WiFi. Then just connect the router to the modem and set the router  for your parents house and the modem in your room for the PS3 (For better pings)

@Abbabbj, RULE #1 in hardware is that you NEVER , EVER , EVER!! put a laptop , or any electronics for that matter on a carpet or any other surface that conducts static electricity or that covers air holes.

yasamoka

Re: Wireless routers coverage

@Abbabbj, RULE #1 in hardware is that you NEVER , EVER , EVER!! put a laptop , or any electronics for that matter on a carpet or any other surface that conducts static electricity or that covers air holes.

Hahaha take it easy. He means that you can use aluminum foil over the wireless router's antennae to direct the signal.

Chup

Re: Wireless routers coverage

If you don't want to use 3 devices , just get a new DSL Modem that has WiFi. Then just connect the router to the modem and set the router  for your parents house and the modem in your room for the PS3 (For better pings)

Can't do that.
I'm gonna put the router and modem in my room,
And the access point at the wall separating both apartments.

AvoK95

Re: Wireless routers coverage

@Abbabbj, RULE #1 in hardware is that you NEVER , EVER , EVER!! put a laptop , or any electronics for that matter on a carpet or any other surface that conducts static electricity or that covers air holes.

Hahaha take it easy. He means that you can use aluminum foil over the wireless router's antennae to direct the signal.

LOL I was talking about the second picture.

Can't do that.
I'm gonna put the router and modem in my room,
And the access point at the wall separating both apartments

An accesspoint costs as much a new modem does.
So by buying a new modem you will have 2 seperate wireless between your house and your parrent and only one device in your room providing the internet connection and the wirelees of your own home.

If you want you and your parrents to use the same SSID, then an Access point is a good choice.